[Advaita-l] Bagavatham

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Don't the vedas talk about Lord shiva as well?

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, 04:46 Kaushik Chevendra, <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you raghav sir for your answer.
> But why does bhrgu muni being a realised sage curse isvara?
>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 21:48 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Sep, 2020, 7:08 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > One curse given to shiva by bhrigu in bagavatham.
>> >
>> >
>> > Those who vow to worship Lord Śiva are so foolish that they imitate him
>> by
>> > keeping long hair on their heads. When initiated into worship of Lord
>> Śiva,
>> > they prefer to live on wine, flesh and other such things.
>> >
>>
>> The key word is that they live on flesh, wine etc. It refers to the
>> kapalikas, a sect of degenerate shaivas who practised lower forms of
>> tantra. See this.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapalika
>>
>> The kapalikas tried to sacrifice Adi Shankara too but we're thwarted by
>> the
>> intervention of Sri Padmapada. These degenerate Shaivas were no friends of
>> advaitins.
>>
>> See this for the details of these Shaivas trying to kill Shankara.
>> http://www.kamakotimandali.com/blog/index.php?p=984&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
>>
>>
>>
>> Text 30: Bhṛgu Muni continued: Since you blaspheme the Vedas and the
>> > brāhmaṇas, who are followers of the Vedic principles, it is understood
>> that
>> > you have already taken shelter of the doctrine of atheism.
>> > Text 31: The Vedas give the eternal regulative principles for auspicious
>> > advancement in human civilization which have been rigidly followed in
>> the
>> > past. The strong evidence of this principle is the Supreme Personality
>> of
>> > Godhead, who is called Janārdana, the well-wisher of all living
>> entities.
>> >
>>
>> The word Janardana has been explained in bhAShyas as Brahman who destroys
>> (ardanam karori) the future births (jana meaning janmas)
>>
>> > Text 32: By blaspheming the principles of the Vedas, which are the pure
>> and
>> > supreme path of the saintly persons, certainly you followers of
>> Bhūtapati,
>> > Lord Śiva, will descend to the standard of atheism without a doubt.
>> >
>> >
>> > How should we understand this?
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