[Advaita-l] Shabda-ajanya-vritti-vishayatva of tuchch

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Nowadays with modern medicine Vandhya Suta is not Asat person. The barren
woman can use fertility treatment or use a surrogate mother to get a son.

Vandhya Putra can be a Vyaharika Vastu today. Tomorrow the genetic
technology may allow horn to be grown on a rabbit. Then Shasha Shringa also
will become a Vyavaharika Vastu and not Asat Vastu.

>From Paramarthika Drishti there is no Asat. There is only Sat.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 10:59 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 7:39 AM Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it only applies to vyAvahArika abhAva, not tucCha. Shankaracharya is
> > saying it is adhikaraNAtmakam. But Sudhanshu ji is extending that to say
> > that kAraNatva abhAva also is bhAvAtmakam only.
> >
> > If you look at the bhAShya, shankarAchArya uses the
> > term चतुर्विधानामभावानाम् - asat is not an abhAva that belongs to any of
> > the four - prAgabhAva, pradhvamsAbhAva, atyantAbhAva or anyonyAbhAva. The
> > naiyyAyika does not accept that asat falls within atyantAbhAva. He
> alleges
> > that asat cannot be the viShaya of the "nAsti" shabda prayoga itself. The
> > abhAva of asat has neither a pratiyogi nor an anuyogi.
> >
> > Now kAraNatva of mRt is mithyA, but the kAraNatva of shashashRnga is not
> > mithyA but asat only. Similarly kAraNatva abhAva of a shashashRnga is
> asat
> > only. Why? Because both the pratiyogi (kAraNatva) and anuyogi
> > (shashashRnga) for such an abhAva are asat.
> >
> > There is this famous verse:
> > एष  वन्ध्यासुतो  याति  खपुष्पकृतशेखरः ।
> > मृगतृष्णाम्भसि  स्नातः  शशशृङ्गधनुर्धरः ॥
> >
>
> The verse is presented  in the Taittiriya Bhashya this way:
>
> ‘मृगतृष्णाम्भसि स्नातः खपुष्पकृतशेखरः । एष वन्ध्यासुतो याति
> शशशृङ्गधनुर्धरः’ इतिवत् शून्यार्थतैव..
>
> regards
> subbu
>
> > This son of a barren woman is arriving, wearing skyflowers in his hair,
> > having bathed in the waters of the mirage and holding a bow made of a
> > hare's horn.
> >
> > Here walking, having flowers in the hair, bathing, and holding a bow are
> > all vyAvahArika things. However in association with tucCha they are all
> > asat. Similarly kAraNatva / kAraNatva abhAva can be mithyA, but in
> > association with asat, they are asat only.
> >
> > Regards
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> >
> >
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Regards

-Venkatesh