[Advaita-l] अनिर्वचनीया ख्याति anirvacaniiyaa khyaati post-Shankara origin?

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

On Sat, 23 Jan, 2021, 6:08 pm H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Raghav Ji,
>
> Reg  <<  I noted that one of the earliest references is by Sri
> Padmapadacharya himself in panchapAdikA who does indeed enunicate it by
> saying
> " मिथ्येति अनिर्वचनीयता उच्यते" >>,
>
> Sri SSS contends in his work Vedanta Prakriya Pratyabhijna that neither
> PanchapAdika nor even VivaraNa mention in their text any person named
> **Padmapada**  as the author of PanchapAdika. Nor do the manuscripts of the
> work contain any colophon saying it was composed by PadmapAda nor is it
> stated anywhere that the author was a pupil of Sri BhagavatpAda. Hence
> according to Sri SSS there is still doubt even today as to who the actual
> author was.
>
> Evidently Sri SSS does not agree that the work is by a direct disciple of
> Sri BhagavatpAda and must be by a post-BhagavatpAda commentator.
>
> Your reply is addressed to me only and not to the Forum. Just FYI.
>
> Regards
>
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> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:13 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <
> raghavkumar00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Chandramouliji̲
>> Thank you for the reply and giving the clear context and views of
>> acharyas. I have not studied directly Sri SSS's justification for saying it
>> is bhAShya viruddham.
>>
>> I noted that one of the earliest references is by Sri Padmapadacharya
>> himself in panchapAdikA who does indeed enunicate it by saying
>> " मिथ्येति अनिर्वचनीयता उच्यते"
>>
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
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>> ̲<hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Namaste Raghav Ji,
>>
>> Reg << Is this idea of anirvacaniiyaa khyaati presented in Shankara
>> Bhashya? Or
>> was it of later origin? Also, do some advaitins hold that this
>> anirvacaniiyaa khyaati-vaada was of later post-Shankara origin? >>,
>>
>> It is the contention of Sri SSS that anirvacaniiyaa khyaati-vaada was of
>> later post-Shankara origin. He is of the view that it is contrary to the
>> Bhashya itself (भाष्य विरुद्ध Bhashya Virudha). All the other commentators
>> present anirvacaniiyaa khyaati-vaada as forming part of the Bhashya itself.
>> However according to Sri SSS, while all others do so, Swami Suresvaracharya
>> does not admit of this.
>>
>> Regards
>>
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>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:02 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Namaste
>> In Advaita vedanta, the model to explain erroneous perceptions (such as
>> seeing a snake instead of the actual rope) is that of अनिर्वचनीया
>> ख्यातिवाद (anirvacaniiyaa khyaati-vaada). This is used to explain that
>> erroneous perceptions are neither categorically real nor categorically
>> unreal.
>>
>> "If its real, then it would never get negated/sublated; if it is unreal
>> then it would never be experienced at all.(सच्चेत् न बाध्येत ; असत् चेत् न
>> प्रतीयेत)". Therefore the erroneous perception is labelled anirvacaniiyaa
>> khyaati. This is the idea.
>>
>> Is this idea of anirvacaniiyaa khyaati presented in Shankara Bhashya? Or
>> was it of later origin? Also, do some advaitins hold that this
>> anirvacaniiyaa khyaati-vaada was of later post-Shankara origin?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any light on this matter.
>>
>> Om
>>
>> Raghav
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