[Advaita-l] Ekadashi

[Aravind M]

Why jaya and vijaya from vaikuntja took birth in earth again as
ravana,hiranyakshan etc...If Vaikuntam is a moksha ,then there should not
be any talk of coming back again to earth

On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 3:54 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:00 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In that march 2021 issue,maha sannidanam mentioned "nama leads to
>> attaining paramatma"..But he never mentioned that we will attain that in
>> this birth itself staying in grihasta ashrama,doing all lowkkeega stuffs
>> and also chant name in the name of pseudo-bhakthi as many nama sankirtan
>> vidwans are doing...only a Sannyasi who got the maha vakya upadesam is the
>> authority for gnana
>>
> Even if it's admitted that the grihasthin can't attain gnana. He will
> attain "krama mukthi" if his devotion is one minded and true. And hence
> there is no more births again.
>
>>
>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 12:40 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And this is the statement of bagavtpada in the last stanza of "bhaja
>>> govindam"-
>>>
>>> *bhajagovindaM bhajagovindaM govindaM bhajamuuDhamate .
>>> naamasmaraNaadanyamupaayaM nahi pashyaamo bhavataraNe .. (33) *
>>>
>>> *Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool ! Other than
>>> chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross the life's ocean.*
>>>
>>>
>>> And the works of "narayaneeyam" and "gudartha dipika" by advaita
>>> acharyas specify the importance of bhakthi. It's not a mere form of "chitta
>>> sudhi".
>>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 11:52 Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Namaste sir.
>>>> Its true that the attainment of gnana alone leads to liberation. But
>>>> the aspect of devotion is nowhere given less importance. This has been
>>>> stated many times by shri abhinava tirtha swamin in his discourses. In now
>>>> way can knowledge be attained without the grace and of guru and isvara.
>>>> And for people who completely surrender to isvara, the aspect of "krama
>>>> mukthi" is accepted. So, there is no rule that it has to come after many
>>>> births.
>>>> Regarding the power of nama smarana, here is a link to the discourses
>>>> of jagadguru - "http://www.tattvaloka.com/jagadguru-speaks". The
>>>> discourse in March 2021 under " Chant the names of Lord and attain highest
>>>> good" the power of nama smarana is given. There is also a discourse in
>>>> telugu given by him in 2013 regarding the greatness of smarana- "
>>>> https://youtu.be/LqLkkwWm1cY".
>>>> From jagadgurus discourses it's evident the power of nama smarana and
>>>> bakthi shouldn't be compared to other rituals. Bakthi indeed is superior to
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> And I have no way indicated inferiority of other gods. It was ekadashi,
>>>> a special day to narayana and vaishnavas. And hence I had a few thoughts
>>>> about the immeasurable daya and splendor of narayana and shared it in the
>>>> group. And other than a praise of him and a rememberance of him, it had no
>>>> other intention.
>>>>
>>>> Om namo narayana.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 10:24 Venkatesh Murthy, <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Namaste
>>>>>
>>>>> Our Sampradaya has laid down Panchayatana Puja to worship Ganesha,
>>>>> Shiva. Vishnu, Shakti and Surya. There is a reason for this. We should not
>>>>> become fanatics of one God and quarrel with devotees of other Gods. It will
>>>>> be a big obstacle for us if we become fanatics. Every God is a form of
>>>>> Saguna Brahma. No God is inferior and nobody is superior.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Namaste subbu sir.
>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, 23:18 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Dear Kaushik,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You have beautifully articulated the position of the Shastra and our
>>>>>> > sampradaya.  Your post, though short, is full of wisdom.  Thanks for
>>>>>> > sharing your thoughts.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > warm regards
>>>>>> > subbu
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:14 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
>>>>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> The differences between the school of advaita and dvaita are many.
>>>>>> But the
>>>>>> >> CHATNTING of harinama and sublime devotion to vishnu is the common
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >> most
>>>>>> >> important aspect in both the school. In the age of kali, it is
>>>>>> said that
>>>>>> >> no
>>>>>> >> penance, austerity, charity etc has the same fruit as the
>>>>>> rememberance of
>>>>>> >> hari nama. The last verse in "bhaja govindam"says "There is no
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >> measure to escape samsara other than rememberance of hari nama".
>>>>>> It's said
>>>>>> >> that narayana finds some excuse to lift people from samsara. Such
>>>>>> is his
>>>>>> >> daya ,he is the uplifter of sinners,he is "patita pavana". He
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> >> protects his devotees. People who hated hari, such as kamsa,
>>>>>> sisupala etc,
>>>>>> >> too were given mukti because they constantly thought about him. He
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> >> ocean of daya and forgiveness. Being sarvasaktha isvara he
>>>>>> underwent
>>>>>> >> samsara as rama, to show us how to live a life according to
>>>>>> dharma. He
>>>>>> >> gave
>>>>>> >> the essence of Upanishads in the form of krishna to save the
>>>>>> people of
>>>>>> >> kali.  Today being ekadashi, this day belongs to narayana.
>>>>>> >> Just a few thoughts I had on this auspicious day.
>>>>>> >> Om namo narayanaya.
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> -Venkatesh
>>>>>
>>>>