[Advaita-l] Ekadashi
Aravind M
aravindeie13 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 21 07:18:02 EDT 2021
Can u tell some of grihasta jeevan muktha gnanis from kali yugam...
On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:41 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here is an expert from discourse of mahasanidham.
>
> D: Does Your Holiness opine that householders cannot get jñāna and
> attain mokṣa?
> HH: No. They too can attain jñāna and mokṣa. However, their path is
> tougher. An unmarried mumukṣu (one keen on mokṣa), especially
> one who is a saṁnyāsin, can remain away from causes of mental
> distraction and lead a life directed wholly to the attainment of mokṣa.
> Householders, however, have to live with familial responsibilities
> and deal with situations that are unfavourable. Nevertheless, it is
> incorrect to contend that they cannot secure jñāna. Janaka and
> such other householders were jñānins.
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:11 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why aadi shankara took avatar as a Sannyasi..
>>
>
>
>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:06 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste.
>>> Grihasthi ashrama isn't something that restricts gnana. As long as the
>>> householder has a vairagi bhava and lives in accordance to dharma he is
>>> eligible for moksha.
>>> And unflinching devotion is what I meant when I said "surrender to
>>> isvara".
>>> So when a person has unflinching devotion to the Lord and is engaged in
>>> isvara nama smarana he is saved.
>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:00 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In that march 2021 issue,maha sannidanam mentioned "nama leads to
>>>> attaining paramatma"..But he never mentioned that we will attain that in
>>>> this birth itself staying in grihasta ashrama,doing all lowkkeega stuffs
>>>> and also chant name in the name of pseudo-bhakthi as many nama sankirtan
>>>> vidwans are doing...only a Sannyasi who got the maha vakya upadesam is the
>>>> authority for gnana
>>>>
>>>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 12:40 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And this is the statement of bagavtpada in the last stanza of "bhaja
>>>>> govindam"-
>>>>>
>>>>> *bhajagovindaM bhajagovindaM govindaM bhajamuuDhamate .
>>>>> naamasmaraNaadanyamupaayaM nahi pashyaamo bhavataraNe .. (33) *
>>>>>
>>>>> *Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool ! Other
>>>>> than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross the life's
>>>>> ocean.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And the works of "narayaneeyam" and "gudartha dipika" by advaita
>>>>> acharyas specify the importance of bhakthi. It's not a mere form of "chitta
>>>>> sudhi".
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 11:52 Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Namaste sir.
>>>>>> Its true that the attainment of gnana alone leads to liberation. But
>>>>>> the aspect of devotion is nowhere given less importance. This has been
>>>>>> stated many times by shri abhinava tirtha swamin in his discourses. In now
>>>>>> way can knowledge be attained without the grace and of guru and isvara.
>>>>>> And for people who completely surrender to isvara, the aspect of
>>>>>> "krama mukthi" is accepted. So, there is no rule that it has to come after
>>>>>> many births.
>>>>>> Regarding the power of nama smarana, here is a link to the discourses
>>>>>> of jagadguru - "http://www.tattvaloka.com/jagadguru-speaks". The
>>>>>> discourse in March 2021 under " Chant the names of Lord and attain highest
>>>>>> good" the power of nama smarana is given. There is also a discourse in
>>>>>> telugu given by him in 2013 regarding the greatness of smarana- "
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/LqLkkwWm1cY".
>>>>>> From jagadgurus discourses it's evident the power of nama smarana and
>>>>>> bakthi shouldn't be compared to other rituals. Bakthi indeed is superior to
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I have no way indicated inferiority of other gods. It was
>>>>>> ekadashi, a special day to narayana and vaishnavas. And hence I had a few
>>>>>> thoughts about the immeasurable daya and splendor of narayana and shared it
>>>>>> in the group. And other than a praise of him and a rememberance of him, it
>>>>>> had no other intention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Om namo narayana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 10:24 Venkatesh Murthy, <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Namaste
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our Sampradaya has laid down Panchayatana Puja to worship Ganesha,
>>>>>>> Shiva. Vishnu, Shakti and Surya. There is a reason for this. We should not
>>>>>>> become fanatics of one God and quarrel with devotees of other Gods. It will
>>>>>>> be a big obstacle for us if we become fanatics. Every God is a form of
>>>>>>> Saguna Brahma. No God is inferior and nobody is superior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
>>>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Namaste subbu sir.
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, 23:18 V Subrahmanian, <
>>>>>>>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Dear Kaushik,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You have beautifully articulated the position of the Shastra and
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> > sampradaya. Your post, though short, is full of wisdom. Thanks
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> > sharing your thoughts.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > warm regards
>>>>>>>> > subbu
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:14 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
>>>>>>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> The differences between the school of advaita and dvaita are
>>>>>>>> many. But the
>>>>>>>> >> CHATNTING of harinama and sublime devotion to vishnu is the
>>>>>>>> common and
>>>>>>>> >> most
>>>>>>>> >> important aspect in both the school. In the age of kali, it is
>>>>>>>> said that
>>>>>>>> >> no
>>>>>>>> >> penance, austerity, charity etc has the same fruit as the
>>>>>>>> rememberance of
>>>>>>>> >> hari nama. The last verse in "bhaja govindam"says "There is no
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> >> measure to escape samsara other than rememberance of hari nama".
>>>>>>>> It's said
>>>>>>>> >> that narayana finds some excuse to lift people from samsara.
>>>>>>>> Such is his
>>>>>>>> >> daya ,he is the uplifter of sinners,he is "patita pavana". He
>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>> >> protects his devotees. People who hated hari, such as kamsa,
>>>>>>>> sisupala etc,
>>>>>>>> >> too were given mukti because they constantly thought about him.
>>>>>>>> He is an
>>>>>>>> >> ocean of daya and forgiveness. Being sarvasaktha isvara he
>>>>>>>> underwent
>>>>>>>> >> samsara as rama, to show us how to live a life according to
>>>>>>>> dharma. He
>>>>>>>> >> gave
>>>>>>>> >> the essence of Upanishads in the form of krishna to save the
>>>>>>>> people of
>>>>>>>> >> kali. Today being ekadashi, this day belongs to narayana.
>>>>>>>> >> Just a few thoughts I had on this auspicious day.
>>>>>>>> >> Om namo narayanaya.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Venkatesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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