[Advaita-l] Ekadashi

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Namaste

On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 17:52 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sri sannidanam vidushekara bharathi swami said in srirangam vijaya yatra
> 2017 that a man approached him and asked liberation for his entire
> family...achairyal said"u have to attain chitta shuddi,leave ur family
>  and do Vedanta  enquiry to do that.It is not a simple step like a family
> package tour to a tourist place.
>
This doesn't contradict my Statments. Vedantic realisation alone gives
mukthi. But for a baktha it's in brahmaloka that he achieves such
knowledge.

Thank you

>
> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 5:44 PM Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I never said bhakthi is not necessary..Nama is purifying .it is
>> indispensable.But i don't agree with the nama siddhanta acharyas who says
>> there is no need fr sannyasa and vedantha vicharam.Bhakthi itself leads to
>> moksham...Swami omkarananda made a strong statement in madras sanskrit
>> college when he was talking on shankara bashyam that"If nama alone can lead
>> to moksha,then why to learn shankara bhasyam and do Vedanta
>> vichaaram...???????
>>
>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 5:35 PM Vinodh, <vinodh.iitm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaskaram
>>>
>>> The original post is a very nice message on the importance of bhakthi
>>> for Advaita saadhakas and especially relevant on the day of Ekadashi.
>>>
>>> The main role of Bhakthi is the removal of one’s ego which is a major
>>> hurdle in the path of jnana. By performing Ishwara-arpana (submission to
>>> the Lord) of one’s thoughts, speech, and actions, one’s ego is removed
>>> completely and this lets the jnana shine through clearly in the mind like
>>> the sun shines when the clouds are removed.
>>>
>>> One may ask why would an advaita jnani have bhakthi at all? Because for
>>> there to be bhakthi, there needs to be a worshipper and one who is
>>> worshipped, which implies dvaita. Still, we do have several examples of
>>> Advaita jnanas who have expressed bhakthi bhava, like Shankara himself for
>>> example. There does not seem to be any explanation for this. Perhaps it is
>>> because the Parabrahmam is of the very nature of love, which is no
>>> different from bhakthi?
>>>
>>> Om tat sat 🙏
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed 21. Jul 2021 at 16:53, Aravind M via Advaita-l <
>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a special topic in kanchi periyava deivatin kural 6th volume
>>>> as"uchakata gnanam turavikae"...Janaka though was managing the kingdom
>>>> got
>>>> gnana upadesam from rishis ..How many grihastas in this age got maha
>>>> vakya
>>>> upadesam from a Sannyasi acharya
>>>>
>>>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 4:48 PM Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Can u tell some of grihasta jeevan muktha gnanis   from kali yugam...
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:41 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>> > chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Here is an expert from discourse of mahasanidham.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> D: Does Your Holiness opine that householders cannot get jñāna and
>>>> >> attain mokṣa?
>>>> >> HH: No. They too can attain jñāna and mokṣa. However, their path is
>>>> >> tougher. An unmarried mumukṣu (one keen on mokṣa), especially
>>>> >> one who is a saṁnyāsin, can remain away from causes of mental
>>>> >> distraction and lead a life directed wholly to the attainment of
>>>> mokṣa.
>>>> >> Householders, however, have to live with familial responsibilities
>>>> >> and deal with situations that are unfavourable. Nevertheless, it is
>>>> >> incorrect to contend that they cannot secure jñāna. Janaka and
>>>> >> such other householders were jñānins.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:11 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Why aadi shankara took avatar as a Sannyasi..
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 2:06 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>> >>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Namaste.
>>>> >>>> Grihasthi ashrama isn't something that restricts gnana. As long as
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> householder has a vairagi bhava and lives in accordance to dharma
>>>> he is
>>>> >>>> eligible for moksha.
>>>> >>>> And unflinching devotion is what I meant when I said "surrender to
>>>> >>>> isvara".
>>>> >>>> So when a person has unflinching devotion to the Lord and is
>>>> engaged in
>>>> >>>> isvara nama smarana he is saved.
>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 14:00 Aravind M, <aravindeie13 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> In that march 2021 issue,maha sannidanam mentioned "nama leads to
>>>> >>>>> attaining paramatma"..But he never mentioned that we will attain
>>>> that in
>>>> >>>>> this birth itself staying in grihasta ashrama,doing all lowkkeega
>>>> stuffs
>>>> >>>>> and also chant name in the name of pseudo-bhakthi as many nama
>>>> sankirtan
>>>> >>>>> vidwans are doing...only a Sannyasi who got the maha vakya
>>>> upadesam is the
>>>> >>>>> authority for gnana
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Wed 21 Jul, 2021, 12:40 PM Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>> >>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> And this is the statement of bagavtpada in the last stanza of
>>>> "bhaja
>>>> >>>>>> govindam"-
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *bhajagovindaM bhajagovindaM govindaM bhajamuuDhamate .
>>>> >>>>>> naamasmaraNaadanyamupaayaM nahi pashyaamo bhavataraNe .. (33) *
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> *Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool !
>>>> Other
>>>> >>>>>> than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross
>>>> the life's
>>>> >>>>>> ocean.*
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> And the works of "narayaneeyam" and "gudartha dipika" by advaita
>>>> >>>>>> acharyas specify the importance of bhakthi. It's not a mere form
>>>> of "chitta
>>>> >>>>>> sudhi".
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 11:52 Kaushik Chevendra, <
>>>> >>>>>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Namaste sir.
>>>> >>>>>>> Its true that the attainment of gnana alone leads to
>>>> liberation. But
>>>> >>>>>>> the aspect of devotion is nowhere given less importance. This
>>>> has been
>>>> >>>>>>> stated many times by shri abhinava tirtha swamin in his
>>>> discourses. In now
>>>> >>>>>>> way can knowledge be attained without the grace and of guru and
>>>> isvara.
>>>> >>>>>>> And for people who completely surrender to isvara, the aspect of
>>>> >>>>>>> "krama mukthi" is accepted. So, there is no rule that it has to
>>>> come after
>>>> >>>>>>> many births.
>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding the power of nama smarana, here is a link to the
>>>> >>>>>>> discourses of jagadguru - "
>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.tattvaloka.com/jagadguru-speaks". The discourse in
>>>> March
>>>> >>>>>>> 2021 under " Chant the names of Lord and attain highest good"
>>>> the power of
>>>> >>>>>>> nama smarana is given. There is also a discourse in telugu
>>>> given by him in
>>>> >>>>>>> 2013 regarding the greatness of smarana- "
>>>> >>>>>>> https://youtu.be/LqLkkwWm1cY".
>>>> >>>>>>> From jagadgurus discourses it's evident the power of nama
>>>> smarana
>>>> >>>>>>> and bakthi shouldn't be compared to other rituals. Bakthi
>>>> indeed is
>>>> >>>>>>> superior to them.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> And I have no way indicated inferiority of other gods. It was
>>>> >>>>>>> ekadashi, a special day to narayana and vaishnavas. And hence I
>>>> had a few
>>>> >>>>>>> thoughts about the immeasurable daya and splendor of narayana
>>>> and shared it
>>>> >>>>>>> in the group. And other than a praise of him and a rememberance
>>>> of him, it
>>>> >>>>>>> had no other intention.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Om namo narayana.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, 10:24 Venkatesh Murthy, <
>>>> vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Namaste
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Our Sampradaya has laid down Panchayatana Puja to worship
>>>> Ganesha,
>>>> >>>>>>>> Shiva. Vishnu, Shakti and Surya. There is a reason for this.
>>>> We should not
>>>> >>>>>>>> become fanatics of one God and quarrel with devotees of other
>>>> Gods. It will
>>>> >>>>>>>> be a big obstacle for us if we become fanatics. Every God is a
>>>> form of
>>>> >>>>>>>> Saguna Brahma. No God is inferior and nobody is superior.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:44 AM Kaushik Chevendra via
>>>> Advaita-l <
>>>> >>>>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Namaste subbu sir.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind words.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, 23:18 V Subrahmanian, <
>>>> >>>>>>>>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Dear Kaushik,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > You have beautifully articulated the position of the
>>>> Shastra and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> our
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > sampradaya.  Your post, though short, is full of wisdom.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> >>>>>>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > sharing your thoughts.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > warm regards
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > subbu
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:14 PM Kaushik Chevendra via
>>>> Advaita-l <
>>>> >>>>>>>>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> The differences between the school of advaita and dvaita
>>>> are
>>>> >>>>>>>>> many. But the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> CHATNTING of harinama and sublime devotion to vishnu is the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> common and
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> most
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> important aspect in both the school. In the age of kali,
>>>> it is
>>>> >>>>>>>>> said that
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> no
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> penance, austerity, charity etc has the same fruit as the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> rememberance of
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> hari nama. The last verse in "bhaja govindam"says "There
>>>> is no
>>>> >>>>>>>>> other
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> measure to escape samsara other than rememberance of hari
>>>> >>>>>>>>> nama". It's said
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> that narayana finds some excuse to lift people from
>>>> samsara.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Such is his
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> daya ,he is the uplifter of sinners,he is "patita pavana".
>>>> He
>>>> >>>>>>>>> always
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> protects his devotees. People who hated hari, such as
>>>> kamsa,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sisupala etc,
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> too were given mukti because they constantly thought about
>>>> him.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> He is an
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> ocean of daya and forgiveness. Being sarvasaktha isvara he
>>>> >>>>>>>>> underwent
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> samsara as rama, to show us how to live a life according to
>>>> >>>>>>>>> dharma. He
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> gave
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> the essence of Upanishads in the form of krishna to save
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>> people of
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> kali.  Today being ekadashi, this day belongs to narayana.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> Just a few thoughts I had on this auspicious day.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> Om namo narayanaya.
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>>>> >>>>>>>> -Venkatesh
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