[Advaita-l] Perception in lightning

[Kuntimaddi Sadananda]

Sudhanshu- PraNAms

 

As I see,your questions are appropriate and as a scientist I do endorse the point yourare making. Hence I took a different view in my notes on Vedanta Paribhashawhich disagrees with the traditional approach that I think is mostly based on meemamasaposition. 

 
Hari Om!
Sadananda


 

    On Monday, May 10, 2021, 04:11:04 PM EDT, Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:  
 
 If we postulate that mind+shrotra reach subsequent to the mind+chakshu --
then by that time vishaya may no longer be there.

Two clouds collide, light is produced and sound is produced simultaneously.
By the time shrotra reaches there, there is no sound at vishaya desha. So
what will it perceive. And it is our experience that we perceive sound. And
also we reject शब्दान्तर उत्पत्ति due to गौरव दोष.

I think we need to delve into the meaning of shabda. It is the shabda which
is the vishaya of shrotra. Is shabda same as sound which requires a medium
to propagate. If we ring a school bell in outer space, we cannot hear
sound. But does it mean there is no shabda generated ?

Can shabda stay even when there is no audible sound.

On Tue, 11 May, 2021, 1:16 am Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> The upapatti is that science has demonstrated that the svabhAva of light is
> to travel at 300,000 km/s and sound is to travel at 340 m/s.
>
> That being so, one could postulate that the svabhAva of mind + shrotram is
> to travel at 340 m/s vs 300,000 km/s for the mind + chakshu.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Mon, 10 May 2021, 06:36 V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > While talking to Sri Mani Dravid Sastrigal about the question, he was of
> > the opinion that the mind with the shrotrendriyam reaches the vishaya
> desha
> > 'after' the m + c indirya.  There is no upapatti as such to account for
> the
> > relatively slow movement of the m + s.
> >
> > We may have to say that such is their 'svabhava'.  'दृष्टानुरोधकल्पना'.
> >
> > regards
> > subbu
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
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