[Advaita-l] Krama mukthi in advaitha siddhantam.

[Aravind M]

Vaikuntam and kailasham fall under the category of "loka"only where one is
subjected to take a body and experience ishwara..There are good chances
that one in brahma loka(Vaikuntam or kailasham)will fall in his adhyatma
sadhana and go to other lokas..So there is no guarantee that one can
peacefully perform sadhana under lord brahma vishnu shiva for kalpas and
reach adviatha mukthi

On Wed 19 May, 2021, 1:30 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 6:15 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > In advaita vedanta, vaikuNTha and kailAsha are understood to be part of
> or
> > located in brahmaloka in the seven loka hierarchy beginning bhUH, bhuvah
> > etc.
> >
>
> Yes, Narayana Bhattatiri, in his Narayaneeyam, has established the above
> view alone. Not just this, in Advaita, the shAkta, kaumara, gANapatya and
> saura, all these bhaktas will end up in that one loka that is given the
> common nomenclature Brahmaloka.
>
> >
> > Also its incorrect to say there is no time and space in vaikuNTha because
> > even vaiShNavas accept that mahaviShNu can move and interact with other
> > jIvas who have attained salokya (residence in vaikuNTha). You can see Sri
> > Jaldhar's reply for details about salokya, sArUpya etc.
> >
>
> In the Mundakopanishad 3.2.6 bhashya Shankara says:
>
>
> परामृताः परम् अमृतम् अमरणधर्मकं ब्रह्म आत्मभूतं येषां ते परामृता जीवन्त एव
> ब्रह्मभूताः, परामृताः सन्तः परिमुच्यन्ति परि
> समन्तात्प्रदीपनिर्वाणवद्भिन्नघटाकाशवच्च निवृत्तिमुपयान्ति परिमुच्यन्ति परि
> समन्तान्मुच्यन्ते सर्वे, न देशान्तरं गन्तव्यमपेक्षन्ते । ‘शकुनीनामिवाकाशे
> जले वारिचरस्य वा । पदं यथा न दृश्येत तथा ज्ञानवतां गतिः’ (मो. ध. १८१-९) ‘
> अनध्वगा अध्वसु पारयिष्णवः’ (?) इति श्रुतिस्मृतिभ्याम् ; देशपरिच्छिन्ना हि
> गतिः संसारविषयैव, परिच्छिन्नसाधनसाध्यत्वात् । ब्रह्म तु समस्तत्वान्न
> देशपरिच्छेदेन गन्तव्यम् । यदि हि देशपरिच्छिन्नं ब्रह्म स्यात्,
> मूर्तद्रव्यवदाद्यन्तवदन्याश्रितं सावयवमनित्यं कृतकं च स्यात् । न त्वेवंविधं
> ब्रह्म भवितुमर्हति । अतस्तत्प्राप्तिश्च नैव देशपरिच्छिन्ना भवितुं युक्ता ॥
>
>
> The liberated do not travel to any other place/loka, for any such travel
> will imply that the jiva is still in samsara. Since Brahman is infinite,
> the jnani who has realized his identity with Brahman, also being the
> Infinite Brahman alone, does not go anywhere upon death.  For, Brahman is
> not a finite place to be reached/attained.  If Brahman were located in a
> place then Brahman, being no different from any formed object, will have to
> have a beginning and end, and be dependent on something else, be made of
> parts, and ephemeral, and a produced one.  Brahman can never be of this
> nature.  Thus, the ‘attainment’ of Brahman cannot be involving any locating
> in some other place.
>
>
> regards
>
> subbu
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