[Advaita-l] adhikAra - veda - vedAnta, a query

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Namaste shri bhaskarji.


Perhaps this would be the reason nowadays, with an unwritten relaxation
> with respect to vidhi-nishedha (injunction and prohibition) of ancient
> smruti texts,  modern religious / spiritual institutions (like Arsha vidya,
> Chinmaya mission, RK math etc.)  are openly teaching veda-vedAnta to stree,
> non-dvija-s and even initiating them to sannyasa giving them the new
> Ashrama bound names etc.
>
Its important to note that none of the traditional maths do that. Of course
bakthi is a must for all.

>
> Now the question is, is this a welcome sign or further deterioration of
> varNa system??
>
This is a much complicated question. When sva-dharma is abandoned the role
of varna isnt present anymore.
Its better to stick to ones own varna duties as krishna says in geeta.

>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
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> Dear Bhaskar mahaseya,                                            I feel
> vedenta is  mainly vedic interpretation/upanishad's extrapolation/Avatura
> Pursuha's message to the dharmic people. When Swami Dayananda Sarawathi
> visited my place some 20 yrs back to give a discourse on 'Gita Bhashya', I
> put the same question to him after the discourse regarding the initiation
> to learn vedanta, he said to me if you have inclination/urge to learn , you
> can start from any where and this will not apply to vedanta acharya and he
> needs to be Adhikari or competent enough to teach vedanta. Learner need to
> be a Adhikari, he will get that over a period of time.
> Then comming to Brahmmavidya, yes it definitely gupa, gupta tara,
> Sampradaya, rahasya, rahasyati rahasya. As you mentioned Sh. Bhaskararaya
> Makhin mentions in his commentary on lalita sahasrnama bhashyam and
> Varivasya, Adhikarata is must to start the sadhana, He should have string
> faith in the veda pramana.He may not be adhikari to begin with (unless
> otherwise you practise, you can't become adhiakri. but Bhaskararaya say he
> shouldn't be "Na satya, Na Dustaya, Na Viswasaya kadachit" to begin. Some
> times, your birth may give the adhikarata (I mean some people by birth they
> may get adhikari's as they might have borned in
> ghanapathi/devatarachana/vyesya deva families).Ls-Phala sruthi- 44Pasu
> thulya sa vijneya thasmai datham nirarthakam, Pareekshya vidhya vidhusha
> thasmai dadhya dwichakshana
>
>
> There is no point in giving the MANTRA to animal like people,& it should
> be given to those who are learned and wise (adhikari's). i.e He can Hold
> that.
>
> Ultimately the seed of initiation grows, becomes a tree in the physical
> body. people gets the physical body to get the liberation which is nothing
> but the mantra, I mean as the mantra grows, physical body grows (which in
> not due to external food feeding).
> Sri Guru Padaravindarpana MastuKameswara
>
>
>
>
>     On Friday, 1 October, 2021, 03:00:07 pm GMT+5:45, Bhaskar YR via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>  praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> whenever I chant veda maNtra-s publicly using mic , whenever I hear
> recordings of gAyatri maNtra and other veda sUkta / maNtra-s, public
> discourses like geeta jnAna yagna,  vedAnta in loud speakers etc. I do have
> a doubt that can it be made public without taking proper care of
> adhikAra??  vedAnta is guhya vidyA should not be taught to anadhikAri-s
> reiterates saMpradAya, bhAshyakAra says before taking up brahmavidyA
> jignAsa sAdhana chatushtaya is must,  lord too says in geeta idam te
> nAtapaskAya, nA bhaktAya kadAchana, should not be taught to the one who is
> not serving his guru etc. because this vidyA is paramaM guhyaM.  But what
> we are seeing today??  all veda-vedAnta geeta available to all openly
> irrespective of adhikAra.  we are making it proudly  public.  Is this
> relaxation allowed in the current situation (kAladharma) ??  Just curious
> to know the traditional clarification with regard to this.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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