[Advaita-l] Need resources

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Sun Apr 17 13:01:23 EDT 2022


Namaste,

What the Swamiji is saying is that any reality has to have same grounding
to establish the validity of its reality. That ground is existence, which
we call God. If athiests reduce God to an idea, and then call into question
the existence of such an idea, that very denial also has to have some basis
for its validity.

If that basis is denied, the denial will itself be denied. Therefore, the
very denial of the existence of God depends on the existence that is God
for its existence and validity.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Sat, 16 Apr 2022, 07:06 Kartik Vashishta via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> OM
> OM NAMAH SIVANANDAYA
>
> Revered Self,
>
> Sadar Pranam,
>
> I wish you comfort and peace.
>
> I'm trying to understand some of blessed Sri Sri Swami Krishnananda Ji's
> works:
>
> From: https://www.swami-krishnananda.org/disc/disc_137.html
>
> "Philosophical disquisitions often have the tendency to hold the opinion
> that the idea of God is, after all, an idea, and an idea need not be a
> reality. This is a very critical point which one has to face in deeper
> analysis of human situations. Can an idea be identified with existence, or
> does an idea merely remain an idea isolated from what we can regard as true
> existence? There is a peculiar mystery behind the very idea of perfection
> arising in our minds. The mystery is this, which we have to analyse further
> with a little bit of caution and subtlety of thought. The idea that the
> idea of God may be an idea is also an idea. So, we are not sure as to where
> we are standing."
> <snip>
> "The notion of God will be accepted to be a simple notion and, therefore,
> we need not acquiesce in the attribution of any reality or existence to
> this idea or notion of the existence of God or perfection. Accepted. But
> the refusal to accept the presence of any reality or the element of
> existence in the idea or notion of God is an idea which will not again
> agree that it also should be identified with a mere idea minus existence.
> This is a very great subtle point that is hidden behind the workings of our
> minds.
>
> A denial of a thing does not wish to be denied itself. If that denial is
> denied, its value goes, and it ceases to be a denial. So the idea that the
> idea of God cannot be equated with existence cannot be an idea merely,
> minus existence. It has to have some existence, some reality. Otherwise, we
> run into an infinite regress of arguments where we do not come to any
> conclusion at all. And this inconclusive way of arguing is called logical
> fallacy. It is not logic at all. It is not argument. It is not any
> acceptable statement. The insistence on the preceding idea, namely the idea
> of the refusal to accept the idea of God as identical with reality or
> existence, is a proof that the idea of God is identical with the existence
> of God."
>
> Not being able to understand. Please suggest some resources
> (books/discourses/your take/etc.
> In gratitude,
>
> Pranam,
>
> OM
> Kartik Vashishta
> OM
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