[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: A question about Kumbhakarna

[Ryan Armstrong]

Thank you Subbu-ji and Bhaskar-ji for the correction.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 at 04:50, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com>
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> //Kamsa and Sisupala//  The duo are Dantavara and Sisupala.
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> Thanks Ryan for the response.  It does make sense and settles my curiosity
> about Kumbhakarna's misdeeds.
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> This ch of the Bhagavatam gives the story in short:
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> //Kamsa and Sisupala//  The duo are Dantavara and Sisupala.
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> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 8:48 PM Ryan Armstrong <ryanarm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Namaste All
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> I have just (last week) finished re-reading the Ramayana.
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> The story there is that Kumbhakarna, from birth already, would devour
> everything he could get hold of.
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> This included ascetics rich in pennances and firm in their vows, innocents
> as well as various animals.
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> Even on the battlefield, he caused mass confusion by devouring large
> portions of the monkey army.
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> The story says that after he and his older brother had practised severe
> austerities and pennances he received a curse from Brahma as well as a boon.
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> He was condemned to sleep for months at a time - so that he would not end
> up devouring the entire creation.
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> I will also need to check the Bhagavatam (it must be about 20 years since
> I read the story) but therein (I think this is what you are referring to)
> Jaya and Vijaya were cursed by Sanatkumara when they barred his entry to
> Lord Vishnu at Vaikuntha.
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> If I recall, they were both to be reborn 3 times and each time to be
> killed by Lord Vishnu himself.
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> The incarnations were:
> Hiranyaksha and Hiranyakasipu
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> Ravana and Kumbhakarna
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> Kamsa and Sisupala (Here my memory may be wrong!)
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> As with all things, his destruction was previously ordained.
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> As an aside, I have always seen an allegory that Ravana and Kumbhakarna
> represent the chiefs of our desires.
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> In the case of Kumbhakarna it seems he represents Greed and Slothfulness.
> As such, the Lord within needs to slay these desires in order to bring
> peace to the being.
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> Regards
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> Ryan
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> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 at 14:26, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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> We hear that Ravana and Kumbhakarna where the same Jaya and Vijaya and had
> to be killed by Rama.
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> ततस्तौ राक्षसौ जातौ केशिन्यां विश्रवःसुतौ ।
>  रावणः कुम्भकर्णश्च सर्वलोकोपतापनौ ॥ ४३ ॥  Bhagavatam
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> This verse says that both of them were extremely troublesome. We hear a lot
> about Ravana but what kind of trouble did Kumbhakarna cause to the world at
> large? So is the question with regard to Dantavakra in the Mahabharata. Was
> it so serious so as to deserve death in the hands of the lord himself?
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> Om
> subbu
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