[Advaita-l] vedAnta mahAvAkya - A query

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste,

What is the issue with some sentences being vyAvahArika tattvAvedaka and
others being pAramArthika tattvAvedaka?

We don't say that there is tAratamyatA in the sentences or their prAmANya.
However, there is taratamyatA in the satyatva of their viShaya.

Just because some sentences will not reveal a pAramArthika vastu, it does
not mean that their prAmANya is lost - because the sentences that reveal
vyAvahArika things do not set out to reveal them as pAramArthika or
vyAvahArika at all.

For example, vidhivAkya like jyotiShTomena svargakAmo yajeta, reveals kArya
kAraNa sambandha in jyotiShToma yAga anuShThAna and svargaphala. That
kAryakAraNa sambandha is not being denied by the advaitin. The sentence
does not set out to prove that such a sambandha is traikAlika abAdhya, for
anyone to argue that because the advaitin does not confer it with
pAramArthikatva, the vAkya loses its prAmANya.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, 07:20 Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> According to Vedanta Paribhasha there are Vyavaharika Tattvavedaka Pramanas
> and Paramarthika Tattvavedaka Pramanas. The Mahavakyas and Abheda Sruti
> vakyas like Sadeva Somya Idamagra are Paramarthika Tattvavedaka Pramanas.
> All other Sruti Vakyas and Pramanas like Pratyaksha are Vyavaharika
> Tattvavedka. Paramarthika Satya is higher than Vyavaharika Satya. It is not
> possible to realize Brahman with the help of Vyavaharika Tattvavedaka Sruti
> Vakyas. If you look at it this way there is a Taratamya in Sruti Vakyas
> according to Advaitis.
>
> Others will not make this and treat all Vakyas as equal.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 2:18 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Purvapakshis argue the whole Veda is equally important. Why are you
> saying
> > Veda has Mahavakyas and subordinate Vakyas? Every Vakya is equal to
> others.
> > This is a case when Advaitis become Bheda Vadins and Dvaitins become
> Abheda
> > Vadins. Reversal of roles is happening. Advaitins see Taratamya in Veda
> > Vakyas.
> >
> >
> >
> > praNAms
> >
> > Hare Krishna
> >
> >
> >
> > Advaitins see tAratamya in veda vAkya-s!!?? I don’t think so. Tradition
> > says that all Upanishad / vedaanta vakya-s are aiming to teach only one
> > thing i.e. ikyata.. accordingly we have to do samanvaya but not that one
> is
> > superior to another.  Please elaborate why you are thinking so??
> >
> >
> >
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> >
> > *Bhaskar YR*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
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