[Advaita-l] Sleep and Dream of a Jivanmukta

Anand N anand.natampalli at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 02:07:31 EDT 2022


Thank you for providing the alternatives that are contended.It helps me
picture what it would be like, what otherwise seems rather abstruse.

Om Namo Narayanaya,

On Wed 28. Sep 2022 at 18:57, Ven Balakrishnan via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Sankara in Brhad and Gaudapada in Mandukyakarika equate waking and dream
> states, as no-different.  Brhad indicates the (absence of) experience in
> deep sleep is where the Absolute alone reigns.
> Of course the Absolute alone IS anyway; however mistaken subject-object
> duality is superimposed only in the waking and dream states.
> So, the question then is what the jivanmukta experiences in the waking and
> dream states, if s/he has "no particular consciousness”, dissolved like a
> salt doll in the ocean (as Brhad exclaims).
> The alternatives that are contended:
> Experience of the world continues, but the jivanmukta knows it is an
> illusion and non-separate
> The jivanmukta registers no difference at all, as the ‘I’ has disappeared;
> so the body continues to function and respond without any volition.
> Gaudapada refers to this as ’no-mind’.  Astavakra makes the analogy of a
> dry leaf blown in the wind.
> For the jivanmukta, there is no further perception.
> The latter two would seem to be consistent with Ramana Maharshi, as quoted
> by Lakshmana Karma in Guru Ramana Vachana Mala:
> “The Liberated one has neither knowledge of difference, nor knowledge of
> non-difference.  The non-arising of knowledge of difference is referred to
> by the wise as ‘knowledge of non-difference’"
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