[Advaita-l] Gaudapada and Shankara hold the waking objects to be mithya

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Bhaskar ji,
It is understandable why some are reticent to post the views of Sri SSS. I
will read his works in English and Sanskrit as advised.

For the purpose of this discussion, I just have one question. How does the
AchArya explain the first sentence of the adhyAsa bhAShya, which
essentially says Atma anAtma adhyAsa is mithyAjnAna *nimittah*? It appears
to me that in the view of Sri SSS, Atma anAtma adhyAsa is not
mithyAjnAnanimittah but mithyAjnAnameva.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Thu, 3 Aug 2023, 13:19 Bhaskar YR, <bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Venkatraghavan prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> That is fair. We can only wait to see if Bhaskar ji or others are able to
> clarify the true intent of Sri SSS.
>
> >  unfortunately as I said I am from the camp of 1%, those who are
> familiar with Sri SSS's works not willing to participate in these
> discussions, I don’t know this is due to domination of 99% 😊  Frankly, I
> am getting off-line messages supporting Sri SSS view points and saying "I
> am directly writing to you so let it be there between you and me" 😊 If
> asked why don’t you post it to the group??  Immediate reply is : please
> don’t do it, not have any intentions to argue these points against age old
> beliefs in tradition!!  And those who claim that they have studied and
> quoting originals from Sri SSS in this group, giving me the impression that
> I am really weak in understanding my native language Kannada also forget
> about the foreign language English, in which I must confess I am really
> weak.  So my humble request is,  since you are a voracious reader of
> various granthi-s right from mUla to prakaraNa-s like AS, you yourself
> please spend some time read the originals of Sri SSS in English and
> Sanskrit, I think his works are available in official site of APK.
>
> >  coming back to adhyAsa as I said as per Sri SSS, adhyAsa is
> misconception (vipareeta grahaNa) NOT jnAnAbhAva (agrahaNa) He more than
> one place emphasizes that this is predominantly insisted by shankara in all
> through PTB.  adhyAsa according to him jnAnAdhyAsa only thinking about him
> kartru-bhOktru with dehAdi saMghAta adhyAsa etc. due to this adhyAsa
> adhyArOpa and adhyArOpita takes place.  Wrongly seeing rope (adhyAsa)
> thinking it as snake (adhyArOpa) seeing the snake (adhyArOpita).  At one
> place he gives the example of just born child which naturally comes with
> dehAdhyAsa when someone hurts its body it will start crying.  So, this
> adhyAsa, in the form of taking one thing for another, AtmAnAtma adhyAsa is
> the main cause and eradication of this is the primary purpose of all
> loukika and vaidika vyavahAra (adhyAsa bhAshya says this as you know).  To
> substantiate this type of adhyAsa which is avidyA he often quotes adhyAsa
> bhAshya vAkya : evamayaM anAdiH anantaH naisargika adhyAsaH mithyA pratyaya
> rUpaH ( from this mithyA pratyaya he reiterates vidyA-avidyA is just
> antaHkaraNa dOsha, not belonging to brahman) katrutvabhOktrutva pravartakaH
> sarvaloka pratyakshaH, ahamidaM mamedamiti naisargikOyaM lOka vyavahAraH.
> anyOnyadharmAmschAdhyAsa itaretaraavivekena etc.  And the point to be noted
> here as per Sri SSS, mithyAjnAna nimittaH is NOT ( am emphatic NO indeed)
> mithyA ajnAna (which is having a shakti having the powers like AvaraNa,
> vikshepa, which is also anirvachaneeya, brahmAshrita bhAvarUpa etc.) and
> this nimitta does not mean material cause (upAdAna kAraNa) for the
> adhyAsa.
>
> >  would like to write more but afraid if someone comes up with some
> reference saying for Sri SSS mithyA ajnAna is also implied and accepted and
> it is bhAvarUpa as well 😊 Just on the lighter note prabhuji.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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