[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Shankara accepts BhAvarUpa ajnana BSB 4.1.15

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms
Hare Krishna

This "onlooker" thing is not mentioned anywhere.

>  However jnAni's bhOktrutva, katrutva, pramAtrutva etc. are just in the eyes of onlookers and jnAni's realization fetch him the knowledge that he is ashareeri only since ashareeratvaM is svAbhAvika in Atma jnana.  (Su.bh.1-1-4).  lOkavyavahAra sAmAnyadarshanena tu loukikaiH ArOpita kartrutve bhikshAtanaadau karmaNI kartA bhavati.  So it is only in the eyes of onlookers who cannot conceive the idea of jnAni beyond BMI would think that he is having individual body, mind and intellect.  Whereas shruti's declaration is : vidvAn sa ehaiva brahma yadyapi 'dehavaaniva lakshyate sa brahmaiva san brahmApnOti.  If that is not the case and if we still want to  paste AL to brahma jnAni / jeevanmukta then it is as good as saying:  brahman is having the AL 😊

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar



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Namaste Kathirasan ji

//The Aparokshanubhuti attributed to Shankara, subscribes to the same position (i.e. no prarabdha for the jivanmukta, but only there for the onlookers)//

There are no jIvanmukta in DSV. jIvanmukti is admitted only in SDV wherein concept of continuance of prArabdha is valid.

jIvanmukti and prArabdha go hand-in-hand. If we accept jIvanmukti, prArabha stands accepted ipso facto.

This "onlooker" thing is not mentioned anywhere. ajnAni-jana-bodhArtham merely implies that the teaching of prArabdha is to ajnAnI. That is well accepted. But then, there is no prArabdha - is also a teaching to ajnAnI.

Basically, in SDV, prArabdha is admitted whereas in DSV, prArabdha is not admitted.

In ajAti, the discussion itself does not arise.

Regards.
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