[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?

[sreenivasa murthy]

 Dear friends,
Is it not much better if some of you become jnanis/ muktas
and then  give authentic first hand answers?
With rspectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy


    On Friday, 22 December, 2023 at 03:11:08 pm IST, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:  
 
 Namaste.

It is difficult to understand the discussion. Avoiding the words
waking/dream, if in any state one is able to recollect that there are other
states different from the one he is in at that time, it certainly means
different states of awareness are admitted by the person. It is quite
another matter as to which is more real or less real, or which is
dream/waking. There cannot be any controversy about the existence of
different states themselves.
Regards

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:08 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste V Subramanian ji.
>
> Sent the screenshot of reference along with Sridhari TIkA.
>
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 15:06 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:01 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> > sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste V Subramanian ji.
> >>
> >> Nice references.
> >>
> >> In fact BhAgavAta PurANa 6.16.53-54 takes the example of dream within
> >> dream and avers complete identity of waking, dream and deep sleep.
> >>
> >
> > Nice, could you pl. produce the Bhagavata verses?  Thanks
> >
> > subbu
> >
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 14:52 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sri Vidyaranya in his Anubhutiprakasha, on Aitareya Upanishad, says:
> >>>
> >>> स्वप्नः स्वकाल एवास्ति नान्यदा सुप्तिजागरौं ।
> >>> तथैवेति स्वप्नसाम्यात् त्रयः स्वप्ना उदीरिताः || 17
> >>>
> >>> Dream is present only during its existence; not during sleep and
> waking.
> >>> In the same way, being of the nature of dream, all the three states are
> >>> stated by the Upanishad as three dreams.
> >>>
> >>> स्थूलसूक्ष्मबीजप्रपञ्चाः त्रयः स्वप्नाः - The gross, subtle and causal
> >>> worlds are three dreams - explains Upanishad Brahma Yogin for the
> Aitareya
> >>> mantra.
> >>>
> >>> Also since there is ignorance about the Truth, which persists in all
> >>> three states, the svapnatvam of all three are admissible. We get this
> >>> reasoning from the Mandukya Karika:
> >>>
> >>> अनादिमायया सुप्तो यदा जीवः प्रबुध्यते ।
> >>> अजमनिद्रमस्वप्नमद्वैतं बुध्यते तदा ॥ १६ ॥
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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