[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Pratyabhijna and avidyA vRttis of suShupti

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

Yes ji. I actually had just seen the relevant material on Siddhanta Bindu
by Sri SN Sastri on the net @ the Sanskrit documents site.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://sanskritdocuments.org/sites/snsastri/siddhanta.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiZ2v_X-7qDAxX3cWwGHRDKBwwQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3rgSAwumsGabDm_-WdcCNi

Thanks.
Om




On Sun, 31 Dec, 2023, 9:37 pm H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Raghav Ji,
>
> I have copied below from Sidhanta Bindu - translation by Sri SN Shastri,
> PDF page 58
>
> //  When the jiva is tired after experiencing objects in the two states of
> waking and dream, and when the karma (fruits of past actions) which is the
> cause of these two states is exhausted, the inner organ which is
> characterized by the power to know and has vasanas in it goes into its
> causal state (i.e. it takes the form of nescience which is the causal
> body). This is the state of deep sleep which is the place of rest. Deep
> sleep is the state in which there is awareness of the cause (ignorance)
> alone, as indicated by the recollection (on waking up) in the form ‘I knew
> nothing at all’. In that state, even though there is no knowledge of the
> objects of experience of the waking and dream states,
>
> three modifications of nescience, namely, the witness, happiness, and modal
> ignorance pertaining to that state are accepted as present.
>
> Note. In the deep sleep state the mind is dormant. On waking up one has the
> recollection that he knew nothing. Recollection is possible only of what
> has been previously experienced. It follows therefore that ignorance was
> experienced during sleep. In the waking state any experience or knowledge
> is possible only through a vritti or modification of the mind. In deep
> sleep no vritti of the mind is possible because the mind is dormant. So it
> is concluded that there is a vritti of avidya which is the causal state of
> the mind, through which the ignorance was known during deep sleepWhen the
> jiva is tired after experiencing objects in the two states of waking and
> dream, and when the karma (fruits of past actions) which is the cause of
> these two states is exhausted, the inner organ which is characterized by
> the power to know and has vasanas in it goes into its causal state (i.e. it
> takes the form of nescience which is the causal body). This is the state of
> deep sleep which is the place of rest. Deep sleep is the state in which
> there is awareness of the cause (ignorance) alone, as indicated by the
> recollection (on waking up) in the form ‘I knew nothing at all’. In that
> state, even though there is no knowledge of the objects of experience of
> the waking and dream states,
>
> three modifications of nescience, namely, the witness, happiness, and modal
> ignorance pertaining to that state are accepted as present.
>
> Note. In the deep sleep state the mind is dormant. On waking up one has the
> recollection that he knew nothing. Recollection is possible only of what
> has been previously experienced. It follows therefore that ignorance was
> experienced during sleep. In the waking state any experience or knowledge
> is possible only through a vritti or modification of the mind. In deep
> sleep no vritti of the mind is possible because the mind is dormant. So it
> is concluded that there is a vritti of avidya which is the causal state of
> the mind, through which the ignorance was known during deep sleep When the
> jiva is tired after experiencing objects in the two states of waking and
> dream, and when the karma (fruits of past actions) which is the cause of
> these two states is exhausted, the inner organ which is characterized by
> the power to know and has vasanas in it goes into its causal state (i.e. it
> takes the form of nescience which is the causal body). This is the state of
> deep sleep which is the place of rest. Deep sleep is the state in which
> there is awareness of the cause (ignorance) alone, as indicated by the
> recollection (on waking up) in the form ‘I knew nothing at all’. In that
> state, even though there is no knowledge of the objects of experience of
> the waking and dream states,
>
> three modifications of nescience, namely, the witness, happiness, and modal
> ignorance pertaining to that state are accepted as present.
>
> Note. In the deep sleep state the mind is dormant. On waking up one has the
> recollection that he knew nothing. Recollection is possible only of what
> has been previously experienced. It follows therefore that ignorance was
> experienced during sleep. In the waking state any experience or knowledge
> is possible only through a vritti or modification of the mind. In deep
> sleep no vritti of the mind is possible because the mind is dormant. So it
> is concluded that there is a vritti of avidya which is the causal state of
> the mind, through which the ignorance was known during deep sleep //.
>
> Regards
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 7:51 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the detailed references. I shall look them up.
> >
> > Om
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Dec, 2023, 7:27 pm H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste Raghav Ji,
> > >
> > > I need to  search for the references. But offhand I could recollect the
> > > following which you might refer and see if they  are satisfactory.
> > >
> > > Panchapadika vivaranam english translation by Sri PS Shastri, PDF page
> > 216
> > > onwards Book page 198 onwards.
> > >
> > > Vivarana Prameya Samgraha english translation by Prof Suryanarayana
> > Shastri
> > > PDF page 131 Book Page 123 onwards
> > >
> > > If I come across any other references, I will get back to you. I do
> > > remember Vichara Sagara also reflects the same.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 3:49 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Namaste Chandramouli ji
> > > >
> > > >  However,
> > > > > since avidyA is the kAraNAvastha for the antahkaraNa, whatever
> > contents
> > > > of
> > > > > the vritti  were registered in avidyA during the bIja avasthA of
> the
> > > > > antahkaraNa is available for the antahkaraNa when it becomes active
> > > > again.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the response. Yes that's logical and remarkable. Is
> there
> > > any
> > > > reference along these lines?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
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