[Advaita-l] 'Prana' as Brahman

[V Subrahmanian]

On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 2:29 PM Kaushik Chevendra <
chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the upanishad 1.4 itself acharya says-
>
> *"being Hiranyagarbha* born at the beginning of this *Kalpa* and being
> the lord of all created beings and things immoveable and moveable, revolved
> in his mind the knowledge acquired in the previous birth, the drift of
> which is revealed by the *srutis.* Having thus brooded over the
> knowledge, imparted by the *srutis* produced a pair, a couple—necessary
> for creation,—the moon, *i.e.,* food and *prana"*
>

In the gloss Anandagiri Acharya clarifies:

 “अहं वैश्वानरो भूत्वा प्राणिनां देहमाश्रितः । प्राणापानसमायुक्तः
पचाम्यन्नं चतुर्विधम्॥”(भ. गी. १५। १४)
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इति
स्मृतेरग्नेः प्राणसम्बन्धादग्निर्भोक्ता लक्ष्यत इत्याह –

प्राणं चेति ।

By the word 'prana' in the Bhashya we aught to take Agni, the Bhokta, on
the basis of the Bh.Gita 15.14 verse:  I, as, the fire cook the food in
everyone's stomach'.  Since agni is connected with prana, agni, bhokta is
indicated by the word prana.

regards
subbu

>
>
> *Here brahma and prana are differentiated again. Prana being created by
> hiranyagarbha.*
>
> On Sun, 19 Feb, 2023, 1:47 pm V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:43 PM Kaushik Chevendra <
>> chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste sir
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Shankara calls this Prana 'prathamaja' an epithet for Brahmaa.  At the
>>>> end of that section Shankara says: इत्येवं सर्वात्मतया वागादिभिः
>>>> प्राणैः स्तुत्या गमितमहिमा प्राणः प्रजापतिरेवेत्यवधृतम् ॥   In the stuti it
>>>> has been emphatically established that Prana is indeed Prajapati.  It is
>>>> this Prana that was stated to pervade everything in the creation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Prana is not only called prajapati but also rudra, sun etc. Why the
>>> special emphasis on only "prathamaja". Here prana is taken be the Atman
>>> hence it's brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh, sun etc.
>>>
>>
>> Shankara calls Prana prathamaja and says 'since he is the first-born,
>> there is no one to give him samskaras.' Hence the mantra says 'vraatya' =
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>> 1.
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>> A
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>> Brāhman,
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>> or
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>> man
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>> of
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>> the
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>> three
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>> first
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>> classes,
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>> in
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>> whose
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>> youth
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>> the
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>> customary
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>> observances
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>> have
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>> been
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>> omitted,
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>> and
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>> who
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>> has
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>> not
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>> received
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>> his
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>> investiture
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>> with
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>> the
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>> sacred
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>> thread. This word has a negative sense. Here it is used not to denigrate
>> Prana but as a stuti. But the first-born epithet is there for Prana =
>> prathamaja.
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>>
>> regards
>>
>> subbu
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>>
>>>
>>> There is no contradiction or problem here.
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>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> subbu
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Namo narayana
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