[Advaita-l] Fwd: Brahman has no default form; Only contextual form - Varaha Purana

[V Subrahmanian]

Dear Raghav ji,

Even in the case of the form of say, Krishna, the 'bhautika' element is
very much there: From a fetus in the womb, to the baby, there was growing
up into an adult, a man and one who became grand and great grandfather. All
these are characteristics of any other human body.

I think in the Advaita siddhi there is a clarification on what really is
a-prAkRta:  The Laghuchandrika commentary states the distinction between
what is a-prAkRta and prAkRta.  I would like to get more clarity on this.

warm regards
subbu

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:51 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Subbu ji
> That is the crux of the issue of whether the forms worshipped as Ishvara
> are indeed direct manifestation of Ishvara or they are exalted jeevas who
> attained those forms and as arthavAda they are praised as Ishvara.
>
> Once we acknowledge that icchAvaShAt, Ishvara can directly assume a
> mAyAmaya sharIra (which did not have a prior karma chronology as is indeed
> the case with devatAs), then both avatAras of bhUloka like Sri Krishna and
> also other forms like vAmana, Narasimha,  Uma Haimavati etc asserted by the
> shAstra as available for interaction in other lokas are all direct forms of
> Ishvara who is himself kAraNopAdhika and has no one fixed or default form.
> The mere fact that these direct forms of Ishvara are bhautika does not
> imply jeevatvam.
>
>  "Any intelligent being endowed with a bhautika form (of one or more of the
> five elements) is necessarily a jeeva" has hetu vyabhichAra in the case of
> avatAras. So once that idea is dismissed, the forms worshipped viShNu etc
> ., can well be within the bhautika prapancha without any detrimental to
> their IshvaratvaM.
>
> Thank you and Venkat ji for clarifying the sAyujya question amongst other
> insightful posts.
>
> Om
>
> P S. The pic sent by you looks more like viShNu rather than Shiva but
> apparently he is called tri-shira Shiva.
>
>
>
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