[Advaita-l] Fwd: Brahman has no default form; Only contextual form - Varaha Purana

[Bhaskar YR]

The difference is quite simple. Even if we accept bagavans shareera as bhautika. The feeling of hunger, pain ,death etc are all effects of prarbdha karma. No pain can be experienced without any prarabdha karma. So if we want to say that bagavan had experienced hunger, pain in his body. We will have to admit that there is prarabdha karma for bagavan. Which is not at all acceptable

praNAms 
Hare Krishna

Yes it is not acceptable but don't we have to think and analyze the birth of jeeva, god's / Ishwara's intention behind creation, the jeeva's agency, his dependency on Ishwara, Ishwara's omnipotence, his vaishkamya, nairghuNya (partiality and mercilessness) etc. etc. strictly from the point of view of shankara's non-dualism (Advaita perspective)??  In short ultimately from the advaitic transcendental view point : it is only owning to the conditioning associate projected by 'avidyA' that the convention of the ruler (Ishwara) and the ruled (jeeva) obtains.  We should not forget this even transactionally accepting the difference between Ishwara and jeeva cautions bhaAshyakAra : ityetadapi naiva vismartavyaM.  

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
Bhaskar YR
 

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Namaste sir.
The difference is quite simple. Even if we accept bagavans shareera as bhautika. The feeling of hunger, pain ,death etc are all effects of prarbdha karma. No pain can be experienced without any prarabdha karma. So if we want to say that bagavan had experienced hunger, pain in his body. We will have to admit that there is prarabdha karma for bagavan. Which is not at all acceptable

On Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 3:22 pm Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, < advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Yes, Sri Krishna was "as though born endowed with a body" (dehavAniva
> jAtaH) etc, as though ate, as though died etc. But the sharira through 
> which he manifested the Leela was not "as though born", "as though 
> cremated by Arjuna," etc. Its unnecessarily to say that about the 
> bhautika sharIra through which Sri Krishna, a manifestation of 
> Ishvara, was anything other than bhautika. The fact that the sharIra 
> was available for cremation by Arjuna is conclusive evidence for it's bhautikatvaM.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb, 2023, 1:01 pm Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l, < 
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > >>
> > >> I am aware of the fact that it is not bhautika. But such a body 
> > >> was 'conceived' in the womb, delivered, grew up, became old, etc.  
> > >> There
> is
> > >> also a mention in the Bhagavatam that Krishna was even wounded by
> arrows
> > >> and bled.
> > >
> > > The bhautika element of bhagavan's body is only till the fact that
> it's a
> > > part of prakriti and not completely different from him.
> > >
> >
> > Please read as "not completely different from prakriti".
> >
> > >
> > >>
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