[Advaita-l] The fate of mind after realization

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

The example of mirage-water is most appropriate imho.

On Mon, 23 Jan, 2023, 12:42 pm Kuntimaddi Sadananda via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Bhaskarji - Only the confused mind is lost. I find only the disciples of
> Ramana Maharshi argue that the mind is gone. What is understood is
> everything is nothing but Brahman that I am. At the vyaavaharika level,
> jnaani still operates like anyone - but while transacting he does not lose
> sight of the fact that everything is either Vibhuti of the Lord or Vibhuuti
> of the Self. Smatvam only from the understanding point. Like a scientist
> understands that everything is nothing but electrons, protons, and neutrons
> - yet garbage is garbage and delicious food is delicious food.
> My 2c.
> Hari Om!Sadananda
>
>
>
>     On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:48:45 AM GMT+5:30, Bhaskar YR via
> Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>  praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> We all agree we need the instrument (karaNa) to know / realize Atman.
> bhagavatpAda too acknowledges it by saying for the Atma darshana karaNa is
> susamskruta mana.  Shruti also says Upanishad parama siddhAnta that there
> is no duality whatsoever to be realized through mana!!  So, I think there
> is no second opinion on this when it comes to prior requirement of suitable
> karaNa (instrument) to know the what is unknown.  Now the question is what
> happens to this karaNa in general and mind in particular in the jnAni after
> realizing that he is ekamevAdviteeyaM ??  is it going to vanish in thin air
> like snake vanishes in thin air after realizing the true svarUpa of rope??
> Is the jnAni would suddenly become a brain-dead person after realizing he
> is brahman??  I don't think so.  I don't think it is appropriate to give
> the example of snake-rope or nacre-silver to decide the fate of mind.
> Shankara somewhere explains even after samyak jnana the regular activity of
> the speech, mana and body would continue as it is.  So, like snake, silver
> these karaNa-s would not vanish, like barren woman's son it is nor atyanta
> abhAva OTOH like foam, bubble, waves it would continue to appear even after
> realizing that it is water only and nothing but water. So, mrutpinda,
> survaNAbharaNa etc. would be more appropriate here.  In kArika or somewhere
> else I have read karaNa would be realized as  Atman only like realizing
> ornaments are nothing but gold.  An iron ball in fire looks like fire is
> the example given here.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
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