[Advaita-l] [advaitin] RE: The fate of mind after realization

[sunil bhattacharjya]

Chandramouliji,

There was a typo. Please read  "Sukshma sarrera" as "Sukshma shareera (शरीर
<https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?qs=शरीरम्&searchhws=yes&matchtype=exact>
śarīra)"

Jai Kapil Mahamunijiki.
skb

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:43 AM sunil bhattacharjya <
skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chandramouliji,
>
> In Sankhya you will find what manah (मनः
> <https://translate.glosbe.com/en-sa/mind>) is, and how it is a part of
> the Sukshma sarrera and how Manah controls the Indriyas.
>
> Best
> skb
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 12:36 AM H S Chandramouli <
> hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Sunil Ji,
>>
>> Reg  <<  When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
>> the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
>> a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
>> the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil  >>,
>>
>> Can you please give a reference to any text wherein this concept has been
>> elaborated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chandramouli
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:18 PM sunil bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Chandramouliji,
>>>
>>> you posed the question:
>>>
>>> why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda  state >>*
>>>
>>> I regret to have to state that you have not understood the concept of
>>> *Manah-Shunya* at all. When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
>>> the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and
>>> finally
>>> a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes
>>> and
>>> the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil.
>>>
>>> Jai Shri Krishnajiki
>>> skb
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 1:20 AM H S Chandramouli <
>>> hschandramouli at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Namaste Sunil Ji,
>>> >
>>> > Reg  <<  *The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and
>>> > his or her manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika
>>> > world,i.e., he or she is in  the manah-shunya state >>,*
>>> >
>>> > When his or her manah is not affected by the *illusionary Vyavaharika
>>> * world,
>>> > what **exists**  and is experienced as such by him/her  is just
>>> > Atman/Brahman and not shunya/void.  That represents sarvAtmabhAva.
>>> Atman
>>> > being AnandasvarUpa,  why not say   << *he or she is in  the
>>> manah-Ananda
>>> >  state >>.*
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Chandramouli
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:53 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
>>> > skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear friends,
>>> >>
>>> >> There was a slip of pen. Please read the last sentence as follows:
>>> >>
>>> >> * The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or
>>> her
>>> >> manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he
>>> or she
>>> >> is in  the manah-shunya state.*
>>> >>
>>> >> Best
>>> >> skb
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:35 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
>>> >> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dear Sreenivasa Murthyji,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Are you joking?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In case you really got confused by reading my mail, let me assure you
>>> >>> that the upanishad talks about the Manah-Shunya state of the Jnani,
>>> who
>>> >>> reaches the state of Asamprajna Samadhi (or Nirvikalpa samadhi).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyway, let me simplify it a bit. In the beginning of the Original
>>> >>> Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna told Arjuna at the very beginning of the
>>> >>> Original Bhagavad Gita  that what was there in the past or what
>>> would be
>>> >>> there in future is not there now and that implies   what is now is
>>> as good
>>> >>> as not there, i.e., the  Vyavaharika world is illusionary.  The
>>> >>> Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her
>>> manah
>>> >>> is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she
>>> is the
>>> >>> manah-shunya state.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My 2 cents
>>> >>> skb
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'sreenivasa murthy' via advaitin <
>>> >>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear Sri Sunil Bhattachariya,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>  Your 2cents coiin which you have offered is a KhOTA coin.
>>> >>>> When it is tested in the laboratary of Upanishads it will be found
>>> so.
>>> >>>> It is a useless one.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ahamevEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1
>>> >>>> AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2
>>> >>>> AtmA advaitaH || Mandukya mantra7
>>> >>>> Please study and these mantras with Sri Shankara's commentary
>>> >>>> and ponder over in depth.
>>> >>>> You yourself will realize that the statement of yours is  erroneous.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Who is a Jivanmukta?
>>> >>>> Is he an entity?
>>> >>>> Have you enquired?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> With respectful pranams,
>>> >>>> Sreenivasa Murthy
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Monday, 23 January, 2023 at 04:53:57 pm GMT, sunil bhattacharjya
>>> <
>>> >>>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear Akileshji and friends,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There you are. The Jivanmukta achieves the *Manah-Shunya state*, and
>>> >>>> eventually gets liberated when he or she leaves the physical and the
>>> >>>> Sukshma bodies.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> My 2 cents
>>> >>>> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:08 AM Akilesh Ayyar <
>>> >>>> akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I’ll just note in this discussion that as far as Ramana Maharshi’s
>>> >>>> views — or rather my interpretation of them — the mind is ‘gone’ in
>>> the
>>> >>>> sense that it never existed. The whole egoic point of view is what
>>> sees
>>> >>>> both ignorance and the removal of ignorance, the mind ‘before’ the
>>> search
>>> >>>> and ‘after’ it. Asking whether the jnani’s mind continues after
>>> jnana is
>>> >>>> itself based in the wrong point of view; the question is founded on
>>> wrong
>>> >>>> assumptions. That is the point.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Akilesh Ayyar
>>> >>>> Spiritual guidance - http://www.siftingtothetruth.com/
>>> >>>>
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