[Advaita-l] Fwd: The reality ascribed to Brahman is not the same for the world

[Vikram Jagannathan]

Absolutely, Shri Subbu ji! I understand the intent and was merely adding
some more details, on top of what you shared, addressing the wider group. :)

with humble prostrations,
Vikram

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:47 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Vikram ji,
>
> I agree with you.  I am not proposing that Ramanuja is accepting a
> gradation on the same lines as Advaita does. That there are levels in other
> systems too is what is being highlighted.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:16 PM Vikram Jagannathan <vikkyjagan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaskaram,
>>
>> Indeed; Swami Ramanujacharya mentions this in Brahmasutra 1.1.2. While
>> explaining "satyam jnanam anantam brahma" he says that the word 'satyam'
>> speaks of Brahman associated with unconditioned reality (or existence),
>> excluding the non-sentient (achit jagat) and sentient (chit jiva) entities.
>> This can be seen as attributing a higher level of independent reality to
>> Brahman's svarupa whereas the attributes of Brahman, namely achit and chit,
>> have a relatively lower level of dependent reality. However, all three -
>> Brahman, Jiva, Jagat - are considered to be equally eternal and existing at
>> all times.
>>
>> This stands in contrast with Swami Sankaracharya's explanation of
>> gradation of reality based on sublation, dependence and relative
>> non-existence with reference to higher perspective. As a quick comment,
>> though they are similar (in gradation of reality), there are significant
>> differences between the two schools in the nature & definition of reality.
>>
>> with humble prostrations,
>> Vikram
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:14 AM V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Praudhadevaraya, a 15th-century king of the Vijayanagara Empire, has
>>> written a  Brahmasutra Vrtti (Advaita) text. In the publication of this
>>> book,  its editor, the late Vidwan Shri K.S. Varadacharya (of
>>> Srivaishnava
>>> Sampradaya), has expressed many things in his introduction to the book.
>>> While saying  about 'reality', satyatvam, he has also quoted a passage
>>> from
>>> Sri Ramanuja's Sribhasya saying that the same reality that we ascribe to
>>> Brahman cannot be given to the world.
>>>
>>> This book is available at:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://archive.org/details/fudh_brahma-sutra-vrtti-of-prauda-devraya-series-no.-136-oriental-research-institute-mysore/page/n13/mode/2up
>>>
>>> Images from the Editor Sri K.S.Varadacharya's introduction:
>>>
>>> See here:  https://groups.google.com/g/advaitin/c/UzU4cfMZVFQ
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