[Advaita-l] Regarding Introduction Panchayatan to Shanmata
sammit khandeparker
justsammit at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 7 03:04:35 EST 2023
Namaskar,But, five devtas have a relation with pancha-mahabhutas, etc. So, the addition of one would cause the disorder. I hope I am being clear here in my thought process.
Dr. Sammit P. S. Khandeparkar PhD(Religious Studies)
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 01:13:17 PM GMT+5:30, Kaushik Chevendra <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
Namaste.Check the article given by Subramanian sir. It contains various statments from bhasyas of acharya and puranas to show that skanda can be worshipped as isvara.
On Tue, 7 Mar, 2023, 1:11 pm sammit khandeparker, <justsammit at yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we are moving away from the discussion on 5 to 6. Has anyone found Bhagwadpad explaining why he introduced shanamata? Dhanywad
Dr. Sammit P. S. Khandeparkar PhD(Religious Studies)
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 12:43:40 PM GMT+5:30, Kaushik Chevendra <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
Namaste
Hare Krishna
No mention about skanda in skanda purAna only shiva and vishNu !!??? I just wonder.
Have i said there is no mention? I have said that the "majority" of stories or sections contain harihara mahamatya. The purana occurs as a conversation between hara and skanda.This is a bit odd because in the Shiva purana the praise of Shiva is higher and in Vishnu purana the praise of Vishnu is higher. But in the skanda the majority is praise of Shiva/Vishnu. That's what I meant.
However, in taittireeya AraNyaka aruNa prashna we have the name of subraHmaNya and in Rigveda mantra also we can find the names like kumAra, subramaNya etc.
I doubt they are referring to the Shiva Parvati suta skanda. But i may be wrong.
in sarpa sambandhita sUkta-s.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
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"And he is easy to be recognized as one of the main deities since there is a purANA (skanda purANa) dedicated to him exclusively"
Actually in the skanda Purana the majority of glorification is of Shiva and Vishnu. There is a complete section of Vishnu mahamatya and the remaining consists of Shiva mahamatya.
On Tue, 7 Mar, 2023, 9:28 am Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l, <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Panch-Devatas also are deities for Panch-mahabhutas. So sixth deity is an unexplainable addition. If one is to say that such a thing was done to integrate skada-worshipping sanatanis then it looks like a superficial reason. As it disturbs the integrity of panch mahabhutas-panchindriyas-panchdevtas etc."
praNAms
Hare Krishna
Atleast as per existing practice worshipping Subramanya / kumAra /skanda not at all debatable as there is a traditional belief that there is lot of stotra-s in the name of subrahmaNya composed by shankara. Matching saNkhya and explaining the significance of deities can be done like sattva rajas and tamas for trimurthi-s, shaNmukha kumaara swamy too must be carrying his own merits with his six heads for being worshipped by his devotees. I read somewhere he is the destroyer of arishadvarga and he has to be worshipping in all R~tus (shadR~utus) and he is the personification of ishwaratva (surasainyanAthaM), karuNa, tapa, Ishwarya, jnaana and vairagya. There must be something more if we search the significance of subrahmaNya in the hindu’s plethora of gods and goddesses😊 And he is easy to be recognized as one of the main deities since there is a purANA (skanda purANa) dedicated to him exclusively. So worshippers of skanda could see more deep and philosophical significance in it. Just few of my thoughts.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
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