[Advaita-l] Is there a difference between papa and dushkarma

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

Reg  <<  Please do give a citation of the same. I will be greatly
obliged. Now lets do  a thought experiment. Suppose  a man by mistake
commits brahma-hatya. He repents performs prayschit and is forgiven by
lord. But, government will not forgive him. His guilt will be proven in
court and he will be sent to jail. So even if he is forgiven by God for
sin. He will still have to suffer for his paap. How is this possible
then?Is this because paap is different from bad karma? >>,

Are all persons who have committed such crimes punished by the govt? So how
do you conclude persons  pardoned  by The Lord are not forgiven by the
govt? The punishment he has got now could well be on account of some past
karma done by him though it may appear to be due to what he has done
presently.

The results one enjoys at any point of time are the net effect of several
factors :: past deeds fructifying at that time, deeds (shastraic) performed
in this life time fructifying at that time, laukika efforts put in by the
person.  It is in general not possible to identify any particular deed
 resulting in a specific end result, even though that is what we generally
tend to do. In fact we invariably  conclude that the result is due to
causes which are directly noticeable. As per our shastra, that is not so.

Hopefully this answers all your doubts in this regard.
Regards

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:35 PM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste sir.
> The concept of karma is a huge topic. The karma being experienced by a
> present life is almost always "prarabdha karma". That is karma being
> experienced that has already been done in previous life's. The prarbdha is
> of accidentally performing a crime and is punished for it. It's not
> directly the karma of the crime that is being experienced.
> If we contend that its the karma of this life itself then what about people
> who escape the punishment of crime without any repentance, has the lord
> forgiven them without a punishment? Not so.
>
> Hence the punishment of actions done in this life is usually experienced in
> a future life. Or in hell or another life. This is the usual case.
>
> Namo narayana.
>
> On Thu, 9 Mar, 2023, 10:54 pm sammit khandeparker, <justsammit at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Please do give a citation of the same. I will be greatly obliged.
> > Now lets do  a thought experiment. Suppose  a man by mistake commits
> > brahma-hatya. He repents performs prayschit and is forgiven by lord. But,
> > government will not forgive him. His guilt will be proven in court and he
> > will be sent to jail. So even if he is forgiven by God for sin. He will
> > still have to suffer for his paap. How is this possible then?
> > Is this because paap is different from bad karma?
> >
> > Dr. Sammit P. S. Khandeparkar
> > PhD(Religious Studies)
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 04:12:29 PM GMT+5:30, Kaushik Chevendra <
> > chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Namaste sir.
> > Our acharyas have already provided the answer to this question.
> > Only "unintentional" sins are what are removed from devata Pooja, tirtha
> > yatra, ganga snana etc or intentional sins committed once but which we
> > repentance for.
> > Hence there is no contradiction in the karma theory.
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Mar, 2023, 3:05 pm sammit khandeparker via Advaita-l, <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Scholars,
> > Sadar Pranams. I have a query. It may look simple to learned minds but I
> > am quite perplexed by it. Towards the end of shodoshopchar Puja we say
> that
> > performance of such rituals can eliminate papa caused by sins like
> > brahmahatya. Many a falashrutis also say that recitation of such an such
> > stuti will eliminate mahapapa.
> >    - My first question is how is this achieved, i.e. how is maha-papa or
> > brhamaHatya eliminated by a devpuja or stuti?
> > I have this issue because we are told that we have to pay for bad karma.
> > Such falashrutis contradicts karma law.
> >
> >    - Can such patha of stuti block all types of karma, like say kriyaman
> > karma?
> > Please guide me on this. It seems so unjust that great sins like brahma
> > hatya  be forgiven so easily? How does this thing operates?
> > DhanyawadSammit
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Sammit P. S. Khandeparkar PhD(Religious Studies)
> >
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