[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: [advaitin] Re: Fwd: Brahman has no default form; Only contextual form - Varaha Purana

[Bhaskar YR]

If a bhautika shareera is ascribed to bagavan he becomes non-different from the jeevatamas having mind body complex.

praNAms
Hare Krishna

I am really perplexed why this doubt is still haunting us!!  What exactly is the problem if we think krishna and rAma have taken birth like any other mortals but their birth is HIS (parameshwara's) own wish but other mortals birth is prArabdha janita??  Bhautika shareera dhAraNa does not invariably means it is ONLY the result of prArabdha.  The Ishwara, the lord of paNchabhUta-s would have taken the shareera by following the natural process to serve some definite purpose.  Krishna took the birth to do kaMsa saMhAra / dharma saMrakshaNa etc. and kaMsa had the special boon or heard the prophecy of his death that he can be killed by only 8th child of devaki, as we know drama unfolds after that, after the birth of 8th child to devaki,  vasudeva, her husband taking the just 'born' kid to some other place by crossing the over flowing yamuna, shesha nAga giving shelter to shishu krishna etc.  These things can be easily described as deva leela but why we don’t want to accept his bhautika shareera also as one of his leela-s.  The shareera which has witnessed the natural cycle of birth and death has to be prAkrutika only, arjuna is the witness of 'dead' body of Krishna and did the untyeshti as well.  These events would  have not taken place if at all krishna's shareera is kevala mAyAmaya 'aprAkrutika shareera'.  I think here krishna's pavAda-s like showing  galaxy in his mouth, lifting govardhana with his left hand little finger, vishwarUpa etc. immaterial as pavaada - leela etc. could be shown through bhautika shareera also and more importantly these leela-s are not the testimonies to determine whether it is bhautika or abhautika /aprAkruta shareera.  

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar