[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Ishwara has no real authorship, kartrutvam, in the creation of the world - Srimad Bhagavatam

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Namaste sir.
 I think a valid upamana for isvara and maya is like a Jeevanmuktha  and
his body. A Jeevanmuktha definitely has control over his body but he
remains a mere witness to it at the same time. Isvara too controls his maya
but also remains a witness to it at the same time. This is why Krishna also
makes many statements such as “ I give them faith in whatever form they
worship “ or “ I throw those souls into demonic wombs”, “ I bring forth the
universe again” etc.

Namo Narayana

On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 at 9:03 AM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
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> When Paramashiva gave Darshan to Markandeya, he did a stuti:
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> *सृष्ट्वेदं मनसा विश्वं आत्मनानुप्रविश्य यः ।*
> *गुणैः कुर्वद्‌भिराभाति कर्तेव स्वप्नदृग् यथा ॥ ३१ ॥*
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> Brahman created this world mentally and entered it. In a dream one feels as
> if he has done some or the other action but in reality he has no doership,
> kartrutva. *He is just a witness to the dream, while only the three gunas
> do all the creation. This is how it is in the present context of Ishwara
> creating. Paramatma only appears as the creator of the world. Indeed,
> Ishwara does nothing.*
> Brahman nirguna, nishkriya, passive. Brahman is the cause of the world only
> by Maya association. This causality is not true.
> Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita:
> *मयाध्यक्षेण प्रकृतिः सूयते सचराचरम् ।*
> हेतुनानेन कौन्तेय जगद्विपरिवर्तते ॥10॥ 9.10
> While I am a mere witness, nature, Prakruti, creates this world of all
> beings moving and unmoving.
> Om
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