[Advaita-l] on Existence in Deep Sleep - missing clip

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

//Thus, sAkshI, just as ajnAna is an objection of recollection in waking//

Object of recollection

On Fri, 17 Nov, 2023, 9:09 pm Sudhanshu Shekhar, <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Michael ji.
>
> Swamiji makes two points:
>
> 1. Negation of thought in deep sleep is recollected in waking.
>
> 2. My existence in deep sleep is not recollected .
>
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>
> 1. SAkshI sees the presence of mind in waking/dream and absence of mind in
> sushupti. Thus, if thought is defined as mental modification, then yes,
> sAkshI sees the abhAva of thought in sushupti which is recollected in
> waking.
>
> However, if thought is defined to include avidyA-vritti, then such thought
> is not negated in sushupti. They are very much there and are recollected so
> in waking.
>
> 2. Existence per se is never the experiencer. It is the sAkshI, which is
> avidyA-upahita-chaitanya, who is the experiencer.
>
> Now, none denies his existence in sushupti. However, "I" is certainly not
> there in sushupti. Then, how are we sure of our existence then. Because
> same sAkshI was there. But how do we know that sAkshI is there? True it is
> self-illumined. But sAkshI cannot "know" without pramANa-vritti or
> avidyA-vritti.
>
> Therefore, sAkshI-AkArA-avidyA-vritti is admitted in sushupti. This vritti
> is destroyed and a samskAra is formed which manifests in waking resulting
> into recollection of sAkshI.
>
> Thus, sAkshI, just as ajnAna is an objection of recollection in waking.
>
> Regards.
>