[Advaita-l] [advaitin] All names and All forms in creation are of Brahman - Narada Purana

[V Subrahmanian]

Yes, Bhaskar ji, our pAThA is as what you have specified. Some Vaishnavas
chant without the 'sa hari' part. If they have been taught that way in any
pAThashAla, the vidyarthis, smarta or otherwise, would chant as per their
Acharya.

regards
subbu

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 2:42 PM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

> praNAms
>
> Hare Krishna
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> We chant like : tasyA shikhaaya madhye paramaatmaa vyavasthitaH, then we
> chant sa brahma sa shivassaharissendrasOksharaH paramassvaraat… is the
> below pAtha bedha?? Anyway all nAma rUpa are brahman is bhAshya vAkya
> too…savaM cha nAma rUpAdi sadAtmanaiva satyaM vikArajAtaM svatastu
> anrutameva.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!
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> bhaskar
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> *स* *ब्रह्मा* *स* *शिवो* *विप्र* *स* *हरिः* *सैव* *देवराट्* *।।*
> *स* *सर्वरूपः* *सर्वाख्यः* *सोऽक्षरः* *परमः* *स्वराट्* *।।* *८१**-**१०७*
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> Annotating the famous Narayana Sukta of the Krishna Yajur Veda
> (Mahanarayana Upanishad), the above verse says:
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> He is Brahma, he is Shiva, he is Hari, he alone is Indra. All forms and
> all names in creation are His.
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> This verse in the Purana settles the heated debate where Vaishnavas resent
> the word Hari along with others in the Narayana Sukta.  Their contention
> is: if Hari is included along with Shiva, etc., then the Sukta would cease
> to be a Vaishnava-friendly one since the Narayana there would be a Turiya
> Brahman which Smartas, Advaitins alone approve of. For Advaitins there is
> no issue here as it is perfectly Vedanta-friendly.  It is only for the
> sectarians this is a problem.  Some of them have gone to the extent of
> suspecting mischief by some while teaching the sukta to the students in
> Veda Pathashalas.
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> In fact this line occurs in the Kaivalyopanishat too.  Commenting in the
> Vishnu Sahasra Nama Bhashya for the name: Shiva (No.27) Shankara says:
> निस्त्रैगुण्यतया शुद्धत्वात् शिवः , 'स ब्रह्मा स शिवः' (कैवल्य उप.8)
> इत्यभेदोपदेशाच्छिवादिनामभिर्हरिरेव स्तूयते |  (Devoid of the three gunas,
> sattva, etc. and hence Pure, Shiva.  Citing the Kaivalyopanishat 'sa
> brahmaa, sa shivaH..'  Shankara says: here there is the teaching of abheda
> (across the Trimurtis, etc.) and this is a stuti of Hari alone by the names
> such as Shiva.
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> The exact reading in the Kaivalyopanishat is:
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/kaivalya.html
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> *स* *ब्रह्मा* *स* *शिवः* सेन्द्रः सोऽक्षरः परमः स्वराट् ।
>
>                                 स एव विष्णुः स प्राणः स कालोऽग्निः स
> चन्द्रमाः ॥ ८॥
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>  Shankara has cited the highlighted portion above. However, in the
> Upanisad/Sukta, the reading is स ब्रह्म (not ब्रह्मा as cited by Shankara
> and found in the above Kaivalya upanishat).
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> This also shows that for Shankara, who has even cited the Shiva Purana
> verse for the name Rudra in the VSN, this a text of names of Brahman and
> not a particular deity Vishnu.
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> Om Tat Sat.
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