[Advaita-l] DSV /SDV in Shri Dakshinamurthy Stotram

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 Thank you and Namaste.What is that advaita vedanta framework that holds waking is identical to dream, no ifs and buts. Shankara in the Dakshinamurthi Ashtakam says the mirror-world is LIKE a dream. That makes it NOT identical, It is recognition of the two states as distinct, is it not? And yet it seems we are looking at DSV in later verses.

Can you explain what is Srusti Drishti and how this work, DMA, can be read as using the SDV, as is in specific verse, or specific commentary?
Thank you so much for your effort and time. I realize I need to know more about the two vadas
Somaya
    On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 08:44:43 AM EDT, Sudhanshu Shekhar: Namaste.
In simple words, that framework of Advaita VedAnta wherein waking is held to be identical to dream, without any if and but, is called DSV.
And where waking is differentiated from dream, is called SDV.
Both DSV and SDV fall within the purview of vivartavAda. However, DSV denies fundamental assumptions of SDV. 
For e.g., pratikarma-vyavasthA, a pivotal concept of SDV, is not accepted in DSV. Similarly, jIvanmukti is considered as merely arthavAda in DSV and prArabdha is not admitted. Likewise, sequential creation through panchIkaraNa and trivritkaraNa is unacceptable in DSV. 
And these are obvious also once we accept that dream is identical to waking.

Regards.Sudhanshu Shekhar. 


On Mon, 8 Apr, 2024, 5:56 pm smallpress via Advaita-l, <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Thank you for your response. The discussion was above my grade :-), sorry. It seems to me then that what the Ashtakam is saying is Drishti is Srushti, DSV, that we/jiva/atma which is sat and sphurana "lend" existence to the objects in the waking state. BUT immediately this is denied (according to swami Chinmayananda's commentary) that because existence pervades, objects always had Sat, however because of adhyasa, it is is veiled by avidya. 
I am only a seeker and seeking clarification.
PranamSomaya
    On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 01:26:56 AM EDT, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com> wrote:  

 praNAms 
Hare Krishna

I saw an archived discussion on the DSV and SDV in this work.
Can someone please explain what these two vadas are and and how do these vadas appear in the work?

>  If you have seen and already read the discussion about drushti-srushti vAda and srushti-drushti vAda you might have come to know what these schools are basically talking about.  In short, there is srushti hence you are seeing says SDV and DS vAdins say you are seeing hence there is srushti!! 😊

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

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