[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Shankara says: Vedantins have no purport in Creation

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Subbu ji.

Yes. I get that point. Just that someone may misconstrue as srishTi-vAkya
having no relevance for vedAntI. That is why I just tried to expand.

Regards.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2024, 15:34 V Subrahmanian, <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sudhanshu ji,
>
> What I meant to convey is what Shankara says there:
>
> स एव भूमिष्ठो मायाच्छन्नः *अदृश्यमान एव स्थितो यथा, तथा तुरीयाख्यं
> परमार्थतत्त्वम् ।* *अतस्तच्चिन्तायामेवादरो मुमुक्षूणामार्याणाम् *, *न
> निष्प्रयोजनायां सृष्टावादर इत्यतः सृष्टिचिन्तकानामेवैते विकल्पा इत्याह —
> स्वप्नमायासरूपेति । स्वप्नसरूपा मायासरूपा चेति ॥*
> The purport/significance for the Vedantin is the Turiya  that is 'unseen'
> behind the 'seen' creation. Hence the Mumukshus, Aryas, focus on the Turiya
> alone and not on the creation that is of no use.  By anvaya-vyatirka
> Shankara conveys that it is the Brahman that is the focus of the aspirant.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 1:35 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Subbu ji.
>>
>> From this we conclude that Shankara does not hold the creation shrutis as
>>> having any significance for the Vedantin.  Shankara emphasises this twice
>>> in this very bhashya.
>>>
>>
>> Creation-shruti are not devoid of significance for VedAntI. They hold
>> great significance - by being the tool through which advitIyatva of Brahman
>> is established. However, they don't have significance in their literal
>> meaning.
>>
>> The paramArtha-chintaka has no interest or prayojana in physics of
>> creation. This is because: investigating the physics of dream-creation is
>> useless. There is no physics there at all.
>>
>> The paramArtha-chintaka has, however, prayojana in advitIyatva of Brahman
>> which is established by creation-shruti.
>>
>> That is why creation-shruti are called arthavAda by BhAshyakAra in
>> Aitareya. Their dwArabhUta-artha is to be ignored whereas the
>> lakshya-artha, which is in unison with pramANa-vAkyAs proclaiming
>> advitIyatva of Brahman, is to be accepted.
>>
>> ...अस्तु तर्हि सर्वमेवेदमनुपपन्नम् । न, अत्रात्माववोधमात्रस्य
>> विवक्षितत्वात्सर्वोऽयमर्थवाद इत्यदोषः ।
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>>
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