[Advaita-l] [advaitin] SSSS on the controversy between mulav7idya and abhavarupa - directly and simply explained as per SSSS

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms
Hare Krishna

It is not just about the word mUlAvidyA, Sri SSS’s contention is about usage of this term and definition of it in vyAkhyAna-s (panchapAdika vivaraNa in particular).  Just coz. nirvana used in kArika it is not Buddhistic text, likewise just coz. MV used in up. It is not vyAkhyAnakAra’s MV 😊 If that is not the case, Sri SSS somewhere jokingly says in Kannada : haladi seere uttikondiruvavarella nanna hendati unda haage 😊

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

BHASKAR YR

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त्रिपाद्विभूतिमहानारायणोपनिषत्

https://sa.wikisource.org/s/1s82

This Upanishad, listed in the 108 of the Muktika upanishad, has at least 10 occurrences of the term mUlAvidyA.  The Upanishad has the commentary of an Advaitin Upanishad Brahma Yogin.

https://archive.org/details/108_Upanishads_with_Sanskrit_Commentary_of_Upanishad_Brahma_Yogin/Dasonapanishads%20with%20Upanishadbrahman%27s%20commentary%20Vol%201/

regards
subbu

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 9:37 AM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <advaitin at googlegroups.com<mailto:advaitin at googlegroups.com>> wrote:
praNAms Sri MCC prabhuji
Hare Krishna

Swami Prabuddhanandaji is a 50+ year disciple of Swami Chinmayananndaji. He has also studied with Dayanandaji and more recently, SSSSji.


  *   Sri Prakashanandendra Saraswati was also earlier with Arsha vidya I think.  Now teaching Sri SSS’s Shuddha shankara Vedanta at Holenarsipur.

He has been giving talks at .Ramana Kendra, New Delhi for decades. Swamiji is a master teacher and advocate of SSSS recognition of Prasthanatraya Bhasya.


>     Interesting fact about bhAvarUpa avidyA and it’s refutation,  has been accepted by other pundits ‘as it is’ even though they are not so good friend of Sri SSS’s works.  mUlAvidyA is a fabricated theory by later advaitins just to counter the objections of dualists and it hardly finds a place in shankara’s mUla PTB.

Here he is in his prime, discussing silver/shell and one/two moons from Adhyasa Bhasya (first 30 min) comparing mulavidvya with abhavarupa avidya in a simple easy-to-understand manner as claimed to be the way Sankaracharya originally intended.


>     Simple easy way !!??  who needs it or who cares it ??  Who needs ‘anubhava sammata svAbhAvika adhyAsa’  when they have the big-big nomenclatures to define and defend bhAvarUpa, brahmAshrita, anirvachaneeya avidyA??  They want to add all types of ‘masala’ to it to have it in a more attractive way to construct logical theories around it 😊 Sri SSS very often says in all through his works : shankara Vedanta is anubhava sammata, shrutyukta vedAnta it is not a product of shushka tarka which neither has the backdrop of shruti, shrutyukta yukti and anubhava,


  *   I really appreciate your patience to pacify the needs of some tyros here and trying to prove credentials of Sri SSS in front of those who left and right passing their adolescent  judgements on saint who dedicated more than 6 decades exclusively in the study of Shuddha shankara vedAnta prakriya viz a viz later vyAkhyAna-s.  Fortunately, Sri SSS when he openly challenged the stand of vyAkhyAnakAra-s then, no one dared to say:  Sorry you don’t know nyAya, you have not understood basic tenets of shankara Vedanta, intentions of subsequent vyAkhyAna etc. so you are not qualified enough to debate with pundita-s like us.  OTOH, after reading Sri SSS’s objections they sincerely tried to defend their position.  Hardly Sri SSS encountered ‘childish’ attacks like this during his time.  Of course they were all well mannered traditional scholars know how to respect a saint and scholar in tradition, and more importantly they were not just armchair philosophers like us.


Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
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