[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Upanishad and Shankara hold 'tamas' darkness, to be a 'thing.'

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,

Reg // So, what objection can probably arise against its pramAtri-vedyatva?
//,

Because, for sense of sight to be functional, presence of light is
compulsory.

Regards

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:24 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouli ji.
>
> I cannot readily recollect if the sAkshi-bhAsyatva of tamas is mentioned
> anywhere explicitly. If you can give a citation, I will be grateful.
>
> As such, tamas having rUpa is accepted. So, what objection can probably
> arise against its pramAtri-vedyatva?
>
> Namaste Kalyani ji.
>
> *argument 1*
> the non-abhAvatva of darkness is proved by anumAna: तमः शब्द वाच्यो
> नाभावः, स्वमात्रवृत्तिधर्मप्रकारकप्रतियोगिज्ञानाजन्यप्रत्यक्षविषयत्वाद्,
> घटवत्।
>
> tamas is not abhAva, on account of being
> swa-mAtra-vritti-dharma-prakAraka, being pratiyogI-jnAna-ajanya, and being
> pratyaksha-vishaya, just like a pot.
>
> *argument 2*
> Also, if tamas is an abhava,then you will not be able to describe its
> pratiyogI.
>
> *argument-3*
>
> if one were to argue that darkness is not vishesha-abhAva but
> nirvishesha-abhAva, then it is contradicted by the presence of vishesha
> "black-ness".
>
> I have merely outlined the arguments. For detailed explanation,
> https://sudhanshushekhar.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/what-is-darkness.pdf
> can be seen.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "advaitin" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to advaitin+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/advaitin/CAH9%3D%2BBDAWNou2JM7hQa%2Bgc9m-ptXAYJY5DGE0cNh4b8cgGoa%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/advaitin/CAH9%3D%2BBDAWNou2JM7hQa%2Bgc9m-ptXAYJY5DGE0cNh4b8cgGoa%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
>