[Advaita-l] [advaitin] What is Samadhi?

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,

In Advaita SiddhAnta, NS is another term for Brahman/Atman/TurIya etc. They
are synonymous terms.

Regards

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:35 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,
>
> Reg  //  What is the difference between akhanDAkArA-vritti (of BhAmatI
> and VivaraNa) and nirvikalpaka samAdhi (of Patanjali Maharshi)? //,
>
> nirvikalpaka samAdhi (of Patanjali Maharshi)  is cessation of all vrittis
> of the mind in that state. akhanDAkArA-vritti of Advaita Siddhanta is the अहम्
> ब्रह्मास्मि (aham brahmAsmi) vritti which is originated automatically,
> without any further effort, following the shabda vritti, when the sAdhaka
> hears any of the MahAvAkyAs from the Guru at the time of fructification of
> the sAdhana. It is admitted in Advaita SiddhAnta that such a vritti can
> pervade अवच्छिन्न ब्रह्मन् (avachChinna brahman ), Brahman  veiled by
> ajnAna. The vritti replicates the veiled Brahman. The Chaitanya in that
> vritti destroys the veil of ajnAna in that replication. That jnAna is
> termed Realization.
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:06 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,
>>
>> I think my other post answers your question.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 4:46 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
>> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste Chandramouli ji.
>>>
>>> What is the difference between akhanDAkArA-vritti (of BhAmatI and
>>> VivaraNa) and nirvikalpaka samAdhi (of Patanjali Maharshi)?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Feb, 2024, 4:40 pm H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l, <
>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Namaste.
>>>>
>>>> I have not come across anywhere in Bhamati School or VivaraNa School
>>>> that
>>>> Nirvikalpa Samadhi of the type advocated by Sri Patanjali Maharshi is
>>>> mandatory, or even recommended, for Realization as advanced by the
>>>> Advaitic
>>>> School. If anyone has come across such declarations, please provide the
>>>> references.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 4:17 PM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
>>>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Can you summarize what exactly you finally understand what is
>>>> involved in
>>>> > Self Realization and is samadhi - required for it, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > praNAms Sri Sada prabhuji
>>>> >
>>>> > Hare Krishna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I reckon these two observations from Dennis prabhuji’s article would
>>>> > suffice to understand his perspective on samAdhi.  And being a
>>>> follower of
>>>> > Sri paramArthAnandaji I hope you too would agree with him.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > //quote//
>>>> >
>>>> >  whereas what I would call ‘traditional’ Advaitins believe that
>>>> Shankara’s
>>>> > teaching was that it is self-ignorance that obscures our
>>>> understanding of
>>>> > the truth and that only self-knowledge can remove it. Thus, one of
>>>> the key
>>>> > issues around the topic of neo-Vedanta is that of experience versus
>>>> > knowledge.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > But the most convincing argument for not including *nirvikalpa
>>>> samAdhi* (in
>>>> > the Patanjali sense) as part of advaita is one I heard recently from
>>>> Swami
>>>> > Paramarthananda. He argues that Patanjali, having written about this
>>>> in his
>>>> > yoga sutras, and being regarded as the highest authority in the yoga
>>>> > philosophy, must obviously himself have experienced *nirvikalpa
>>>> samAdhi*.
>>>> > Consequently, if its result is as has been argued by the
>>>> neo-Vedantins,
>>>> > then Patanjali should be the greatest Advaitin ever. And yet his
>>>> philosophy
>>>> > claims that there are many Atmans and that the world is real. So one
>>>> has to
>>>> > conclude that his experience of *nirvikalpa samAdhi* led him to
>>>> dualism
>>>> > and not non-dualism! Swami Paramarthananda’s last word on the subject
>>>> is
>>>> > that we can happily be liberated without *nirvikalpa samAdhi*!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > //Unquote//
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > If I am right not only bhAmati vehemently insisted the mandatory
>>>> > experience of ‘yOga school type samAdhi’ even in vivaraNa school too
>>>> this
>>>> > non-dual practical experience advocated. Though as per this school the
>>>> > jnana of I am brahman devoid of any duality (nishprapancha etc. ) is
>>>> the
>>>> > result of shAstra vihita vedAntavAkya shravaNa.  After the vAkya jnana
>>>> > dawns  the qualified jnAni ( he is mere qualified seeker of mOksha at
>>>> this
>>>> > stage) has to continue to practice both the vedAnta vAkya shravaNa and
>>>> > vAkya janita jnana over and over again and over a period of time he
>>>> would
>>>> > become aparOksha jnAni and he will be considered as custodian of
>>>> direct
>>>> > intuitive knowledge.  But even for this aparOksha jnAni there is
>>>> prArabdha
>>>> > and avidyA lesha hence he would continue to see the duality of world
>>>> when
>>>> > he is not in asaMprajnAta samAdhi.  And for him, on certain occasions
>>>> he
>>>> > would get the practical and ‘literal’ experience of Atmaikatvam.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>>>> >
>>>> > bhaskar
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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