[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [advaitin] Understanding Srimad Bhagavad Gita from the perspectives of Visishtadvaita and Advaita - an exposition

[V Subrahmanian]

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 12:27 PM Vikram Jagannathan <vikkyjagan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaskaram Shri Subbu ji,
>
> Agreeing on the difference. I will defer to Shri Krishna Kashyap ji for
> sharing more details on SriVaikunta at maha-pralaya. I have heard some
> conflicting theories and would rather withhold my opinion due to lack of
> clarity & understanding.
>

Yes, long ago I had arrived at this conclusion:  How does advaita view the
other two schools? The answer is: The sadhana involving strong vairagyam
towards the world and pure devotion to Bhagavan alone that is seen in the
other two schools will mean to the Advaitin that they will go to Brahma
loka.  The idea that they will get Advaita jnanam there will not be
accepted by them but the Advaitin would place the Smarta sagunopasaka in
line with the sadhakas of the other two schools. The sagunopasaka of
Advaita also reaches Brahma loka.  Up till this the sadhakas of the other
schools can be accommodated in Advaita's krama mukti path.

In Advaitasiddhi there is a section where the forms and lokas of Bhagavan
have been considered and finally concluded that these are not absolutely
real and eternal.  There the commentary Laghuchandrika says that 'there is
no pramana for the existence of an uncreated a-bautika (non-elemental)
vaikuntha.'

warm regards
subbu



>
> However, the point I am trying to communicate is that the Advaita concept
> of krama-mukti is aligned with VA at least until the maha-pralaya state and
> therefore there should not be any reason for Visishtadvaitins for a
> conflict or criticism on this point of moksha marga against Advaita. In
> other words, from VA’s perspective, Advaita does not stand against VA at
> least until maha-pralaya. Of course Advaita goes a step further in the form
> of sadyo-mukti, but this should ideally not be a valid topic of criticism
> either since VA doesn’t believe in this concept or its logic to begin with.
>
> with humble prostrations,
> Vikram
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 12:12 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Vikram ji,
>>
>> The krama mukti of Advaita involves getting the Advaita aham brahmasmi
>> jnanam in that Brahma loka and remaining there till maha pralaya when that
>> loka also will perish upon which the jivas there who are Jnanis, will
>> become videha muktas as per advaita.  The position of VA is that in that
>> ultimate scenario the muktas will be in Vaikuntha, with individual
>> identities. This is because jiva-jiva and jiva-Ishwara bheda is absolutely
>> real in VA.
>>
>> warm regards
>> subbu
>>
>>
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