[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Is pot-abhAva bhAvarUpa

[Michael Chandra Cohen]

Namaste Sudhanshu ji,
I have answered several times in different ways but none of my responses
appeals to you and I don't want to get pulled into another back and forth
discussion.

When I read passages such as Karika 2.17,  just posted online here, I
cannot imagine that Bhasya can be interpreted such to justify a bhavarupa
avidya. Sankara is quite clear here.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 6:30 AM Michael Chandra Cohen <
michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste Bhaskarji,
>
> Your response just quoted inspires clarity on this issue. Sudhanshuji may
> disagree but I believe we will always disagree. There needs to be a last
> word rule that ends a topic, it seems to me.
>
> Regards, michael
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 6:20 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Bhaskar ji.
>>
>> Shortly, I was wondering how Sri Sudhanshu prabhuji holding POT in his
>>> hand and trying to prove bhAvarUpa mUlAvidyA 😊 If I remember correctly
>>> Sri Venkataraghavan prabhuji, few years back, had written some post on
>>> ghata bhAshya, it is more of pre-existence of kArya in kAraNa and it is not
>>> about brahmAshrita mUlAvidyA and IMO, here bhAshyakAra has no intention of
>>> proving pre-existense of bhAvarUpa mUlAvidyA!!  I don’t know how our
>>> tArkika Sri SudhAnshu prabhuji is trying to prove apple holding orange in
>>> his hand!! 😊  Ghata bhAshya rather a good source to understand kArya
>>> ananyatva with kAraNa  and kArya (pot) ever existence with kAraNa (clay).
>>> Simply it is all about mAya satkArya vAda, the existence of kArya in the
>>> kAraNa prior to its vyAkruta rUpa.
>>>
>>
>> Please be on the topic. The anumAna presented by BhAshykAra is simple and
>> clear. न च घटाभावः सन्पटः अभावात्मकः ; किं तर्हि ? भावरूप एव । एवं घटस्य
>> प्राक्प्रध्वंसात्यन्ताभावानामपि घटादन्यत्वं स्यात् , घटेन
>> व्यपदिश्यमानत्वात् , घटस्येतरेतराभाववत् ; तथैव भावात्मकताभावानाम.
>>
>> I will repeat the question:
>>
>> 1. Is pot-abhAva bhAvarUpa?
>>
>> 2. Is pot-abhAva made of three guNAs namely sattva, rajas and tamas?
>>
>> Just simple, plain, clear questions.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>>
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