[Advaita-l] [advaitin] 'Avidya' is not 'only' Adhyasa; it's more than that

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

What I meant was clear. An anAdi entity can be adhyasta without postulation
of a kAraNa. However all entities which have origination need a kAraNa.
Bhashya talks about origination of AkAsha, vAyu etc. They need a kAraNa as
they are sAdi. avidyA is stated to be their kAraNa. kAraNa as well as kArya
(effects) are however adhyAsa only. This does not in any way come in the
way of mUlAvidyA concept. However as I understand Sri SSS objection is that
avidyA is placed outside of adhyAsa in this concept and hence leads to
advaitahAni. This is not accepted by the other School. In fact this is what
I meant in the other post which I later withdrew. Now that a follower of
Sri SSS School has broached the topic, this aspect could be followed up if
felt appropriate. It is for others to debate as they deem fit. I will not
be participating.

Regards



On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 4:55 PM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
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> praNAms
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> Hare Krishna
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> This rule is applicable only for a sAdi entity. Not for an anAdi entity.
> That is the definition of anAdi. Insisting on a cause for anAdi is invalid
> by definition //.
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> Ø     After a long gap reading the mails today.  This one caught my
> attention.  This is interesting to note that even in the rival school there
> is an opinion that adhyAsa does not need a cause as it is anAdi-ananta and
> naisargika (svAbhAvika)!!  This is what even Sri SSS also insisting.  So
> now the question is how this stand of mUlavidyAvAdins suit to their claim
> that adhyAsa need a material cause!!??  Anyway as per Sri SSS fundamental
> avidyA (adhyAsa) involved in all our empirical vyavahAra (naisargikOyaM
> lOka vyavahAraH) does not need a cause as this is anAdi.  Nor there is a
> burden to prove this adhyAsa vAda through pramANa as this is in our
> anubhava and more over the convention of the distinction of pramANa-s and
> prameya-s itself pre-supposes avidyA or adhyAsa.  Without identifying
> ourselves as pramAtru (which is again adhyAsa) there is no business for
> pramANa and prameya.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> bhaskar
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