[Advaita-l] [advaitin] 'Avidya' is not 'only' Adhyasa; it's more than that

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

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On Tue, 3 Sep, 2024, 21:54 Raghav Kumar, <raghavkumar72 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu ji
>
> Thank you for the responses.
>
> Yes that upAdhi takes care of the objection, "if adhyAsa is anAdi, and
> anAdi entity does not have any kAraNa, why does the "mUlAvidyAvAdi" who
> follows "later vyAkhyAnakAra-s" say that upAdAna kAraNa is required for
> adhyAsa?" is answered because only kAraNa-adhyAsa is anAdi, not
> kArya-adhyAsa which is sAdi.
>
> mUlAvidyA = kAraNA-adhyAsa is known clearly in AA paramparA, but is missed
> in "abhAva-vAda"! If kAraNatva upAdhi is not discerned and only kArya
> adhyAsa is negated, that leaves kAraNa unaddressed leading to "shattering"
> of Advaita.
>
> Om
>
> Raghav
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> On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 9:12 pm, Sudhanshu Shekhar
> <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste Raghav ji.
>
> ajnAna-adhyAsa, which is kAraNa-adhyAsa, is anAdi and it ceases on
> Brahma-jnAna. It is present in deep sleep.
>
> All kArya-adhyAsa, starting from aham-adhyAsa, are sAdi and they cease in
> deep sleep.
>
> Regards.
>
> On Tue, 3 Sept 2024, 21:03 'Raghav Kumar' via advaitin, <
> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Namaste
>
> In deep sleep and praLaya, all (including even SSS ji)  accept that there
> is no adhyAsa. And with the waking state setting in or with jagat-sRShTi,
> there is adhyAsa.
>
> From such a standpoint adhyAsa is not anAdi, since we are able to point to
> an experienced state, viz., dreamless sleep, where it was not.
>
>
> Only assuming that time and space (which are avidyA kAyas and this part of
> adhyAsa) have *already been created* - only subsequent to that, we can say,
> by courtesy, that,  from the standpoint of janana and maraNa of jIvas etc.,
> we say pUrva adhyAsa of identifying with deha etc.,  leads to uttarAdhyAsa
> in a perennial cyclical way.
>
> Kindly correct the above if required
>
> Om
>
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