[Advaita-l] [advaitin] How jnAnAbhAva can cause adhyAsa !!??

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms Sri SudhAnshu prabhuji
Hare Krishna

BTW, what is the definition of the term 'triguNAtmika' ??  would you mind explain it in simple terms prabhuji.  So that I can understand.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

BHASKAR YR

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Hare Krishna Bhaskar prabhu ji.

1. //Despite clarifying innumerable times the difference between jnAnAbhAva and vipareeta grahaNa if you are still asking this question means you are still enjoying this question without want of any answers /  explanations.//

So, I take from this statement and also innumerable earlier statements that -- adhayAsa is not jnAna-abhAva.

2. //You do not know that there exists rope and seeing snake instead, your not knowing the rope ( or lack of rope knowledge) is triguNAtmika??//

My question was //is jnAna-abhAva triguNAtmaka//. Instead of answering it, you have posed a counter-question. I will not shy away from answering because the question is quite simple. The answer is - yes. Not knowing rope is trigunAtmaka. I can prove it but i don't think you would be interested.

The way you posed the counter-question, it seems that you hold that jnAna-abhAva is not triguNAtmaka. I just wanted a clear answer. It is not a difficult question. It is not a confusing question either. It is not an invalid question. It is a very very simple and genuine question which anybody will ask you.

3. I asked //is adhyAsa triguNAtmaka//. You have left it to me to decide as to whether devil's workshop is triguNAtmaka or not. Or whether a misconstruction in mind is triguNAtmaka or not. Ok. I hold it to be triguNAtmaka. Again, no point in explaining how.

The way you have responded, it seems that you do not hold adhyAsa to be triguNAtmaka.

So, I will just explain my understanding of your position. You can say as to whether you agree with it or not (I think I am justified in asking that much without being attributed dictatorship):

(a) Is adhyAsa jnAna-abhAva?

No. adhyAsa is not jnAna-abhAva.

This is because adhyAsa stands for mithyA-jnAna which is either viparIta-jnAna or samshaya-jnAna. jnAna-abhAva is an enabler for adhyAsa to manifest. The very usage whereby BhAshyakAra distinguished jnAna-abhAva and adhyAsa makes it clear that adhyAsa and jnAna-abhAva are distinct. While avidyA can be used as a term applying to both jnAna-abhAva and adhyAsa, the term jnAna-abhAva cannot be applied for adhyAsa.

(b) Is jnAna-abhAva triguNatmaka?

No. jnAna-abhAva is not trigunAtmaka. It is just an absence.

(c) Is adhyAsa triguNAtmaka?

No. adhyAsa is not triguNAtmaka either.

adhyAsa is just a construction in mind. It is a mental modification in the form of thought but it is not triguNAtmaka. SSSS ji has also clearly said that adhyAsa is not a vastu and hence it does not require a material cause. So, adhyAsa is not a vastu and is hence not triguNAtmaka.

Please let me know if I have presented your view correctly and clearly Bhaskar ji. If possible, comment on whether adhyAsa is a thought!! And if it is a thought, then how it is not triguNAtmaka.

Regards.
Sudhanshu Shekhar.





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