[Advaita-l] [advaitin] what is abhava?

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Very well presented Raghav ji.

On Tue, 17 Sep, 2024, 13:11 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Subbu ji
>
> I was reminded of the counter-intuituve logic preferred for why avidyA is
> not a bhAva entity (like a pot) and is "bhAva-rUpa" although pot is
> regarded as bhAva inspite of being just avidyA-kArya,  viz.,
> विनाशी भावः सादि |
> यत्र यत्र विनाशि-भावत्वम् तत्र तत्र भाव-विलक्षणत्वम् ।
>
> But avidyA being anAdi, it does not have sAditvaM, so avidyA is not a bhAva
> padArtha like pot. (bAdhaka sattva is there which rules out bhAva word for
> avidyA).
>
>   We would expect the word bhAva to be in some sense a "stronger" category
> than bhAva-rUpa, but the contrary is true. The bhAva-vilaxaNa avidyA being
> the cause pervades the bhAva padArtha pot etc.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Sept, 2024, 12:27 pm Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Subbu ji.
> >
> > //That proves beyond doubt that the Shruti, Shankara and Sureshwara - all
> > hold Ajnana to be a material, bhAvarUpa entity.//
> >
> > I think, by this instance, we can hold that -- ajnAna is an
> > abhAva-vilakshaNa entity. The fact that it is presided by a devatA proves
> > that ajnAna is abhAva-vilakshaNa entity.
> >
> > That is it.
> >
> > Should we say that it is a material entity? Because that would be
> > contradictory to bhAva-vilakshaNatA of ajnAna.
> >
> > ajnAna is both bhAva-vilakshaNa and abhAva-vilakshaNa. The instances
> quoted
> > by you prove its abhAva-vilakshaNatA imho.
> >
> > It is a very crucial point I feel.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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