[Advaita-l] Fwd: [advaitin] Bhagavad Gita - As it actually is | Sanatana Dharma | Sri Shankara Bhagavatpada & Bhakti | Sringeri

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

Dear Subbuji
Yes indeed. I totally agree with you.
There is no loss of authenticity in acknowledging Vyasa Bhagavan’s role in
the composition of the Bhagavad-Gita, even while we all attribute it to be
100%, the teaching of Bhagwan Shri Krishna.

Om
Raghav

On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 at 12:48 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Raghav ji,
>
> This question: whether the Bh/Gitopadesha to Arjuna, where Arjuna too
> speaks, happened in metrical form alone? is something that is difficult to
> answer. Krishna might have had the capacity to convey his ideas in shloka
> forms. But did Arjuna too have that capacity? And Dhritarashtra and Sanjaya
> too speak in metrical verses. I think the sublime teaching has been
> composed by the author of the Mahabharata, in verse form.  In the
> Bhagavatam, fifth skandha and perhaps elsewhere, there is gadya, prose
> too.  The Mahabharata too has prose sections, it is reliably learnt.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 7:07 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Chandramouli ji
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 at 2:23 PM, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Namaste.
>> >
>> > Sri Bhagavatpada, in the Introduction (upOdghAta)   of his Bhashya on
>> BG,
>> > states as follows.
>> >
>> > // तं धर्मं भगवता यथोपदिष्टं वेदव्यासः सर्वज्ञो भगवान् गीताख्यैः सप्तभिः
>> > श्लोकशतैरुपनिबबन्ध ॥ //
>> >
>> > //  taM dharmaM bhagavatA yathopadiShTaM vedavyAsaH sarvaj~no bhagavAn
>> > gItAkhyaiH saptabhiH shlokashatairupanibabandha || //
>> >
>> > Translation //  VedavyAsa,  who was omniscient and possessed of godly
>> > qualities,  set forth in seven hundred verses under the name Gita, that
>> > dharma as it was instructed by the Bhagavan //.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for that very germane bhAShya reference.
>>
>> I have had to convey several times the same clear answer which you quoted
>> from the primary source, to many friends who sometimes find it puzzling
>> that the gItA *metrical* verses were taught in a *battlefield scenario*.
>> (The younger members sometimes raise this question as if they have spotted
>> a loophole  which nobody saw! They don’t know that the shAstra tradition
>> already acknowledges this apprehension and has no hesitation in the role
>> of
>> vyAsa bhagavan (an avatAra or aadhikarika puruSha) in this.
>>
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sri SSS, in a Foot Note, mentions as under.
>> >
>> > //  2. ವ್ಯಾಸರೂ ನಾರಾಯಣನ ಅಂಶಸಂಭೂತರೇ ; ಆದ್ದರಿಂದಲೇ ಅವರು ಶ್ರೀಕೃಷ್ಣನು
>> > ಹೇಳಿದ್ದನ್ನೆಲ್ಲ ತಿಳಿದುಕೊಳ್ಳುವದಕ್ಕೂ ಸಂಜಯನಿಗೆ ಅದನ್ನು ತಿಳಿದುಕೊಂಡು
>> > ಧೃತರಾಷ್ಟ್ರನಿಗೆ ಹೇಳುವ ದಿವ್ಯದೃಷ್ಟಿಯನ್ನು ಅನುಗ್ರಹಿಸುವದಕ್ಕೂ ಶಕ್ತರಾದರು
>> ಎಂಬುದನ್ನು
>> > ಸರ್ವಜ್ಞರಾದ, ಭಗವದ್ರೂಪರಾದ ಎಂಬ ವಿಶೇಷಣಗಳು ಸೂಚಿಸುತ್ತವೆ //.
>> >
>> > Translation // The adjectives  Sarvajna/BhagavadrUpa  indicate that ;;
>> >  VyAsa is an incarnation of NarAyaNa only ; Hence  he  was able to
>> > assimilate whatever Sri Krishna instructed, and also had the ability to
>> > endow  Sanjaya with the Divine Vision  to understand and convey  the
>> same
>> > to DhritarAshtra  as well //.
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 3:32 AM putran M <putranm4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Namaskaram,
>> > >
>> > > Wonderful initiative; knowledgeable and pleasing to hear. Typically we
>> > see
>> > > this type of scholarly discussion done in Sanskrit; but here it is a
>> > fresh
>> > > approach with young erudite vidwans discussing in the English
>> language.
>> > > Looking into their page, I recall seeing episode 1 of the earlier
>> series
>> > on
>> > > Sanatana Dharma (which now has other videos on important topics).
>> Ideally
>> > > time-stamps can be added.
>> > >
>> > > The explanations on the importance of karma and the nature of advaita
>> > > bhakti are presented clearly and convincingly. I have read people
>> claim
>> > > that adi shankara distorted Gita's meaning in order to push through
>> his
>> > own
>> > > siddhanta. These scholars not only took that claim head on but simply
>> > > inverted it on its head - that it is shankara who took great care to
>> > convey
>> > > the actual meanings without the least distortion.
>> > >
>> > > I was not sure about the statement that Veda Vyasa wrote the Gita
>> based
>> > on
>> > > his knowledge of the Vedas. Is it not typically understood that Vyasa
>> > wrote
>> > > the Gita that Krishna spoke to Arjuna? We think of the verses as if
>> that
>> > is
>> > > what Krishna actually uttered, and not as a paraphrasing into poetry
>> by
>> > > Vyasa - right?
>> > >
>> > > thollmelukaalkizhu
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 1:32 PM V Subrahmanian <
>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
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