[Advaita-l] multi universes and powers
Swagata Chowdhury
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Mon Aug 4 18:02:53 EDT 2025
You can get some idea from Shiva Puran Vidyeshwar Samhita chapter 17.
It talked about Mahavishnu,Karanbrahma,Karan Rudra,Karan Mahesh even beyond.
U will get a lot of lokas compared to 14 lokas etc.
Under Kaala everything is Anitya. But there are many realms beyond Kaala.
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025, 8:31 pm Aravind M via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Swami Dayananda ""There is not ONE GOD...there is ONLY GOD ""
>
> On Thu, 24 Jul, 2025, 7:26 pm Jyotiranjan via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Is dhAma's like goloka,vaikuntha are nitya or they destroy at the time of
> > mahapralay?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Narayan
> > Jyotiranjan Routray
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, 17:41 Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > praNAms
> > > Hare Krishna
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe the answer you are seeking lies in analysing the following. It
> > > > is from the Saubhagyabhaskara commentary to the Sri Lalita Sahasra
> > Nama:
> > > >
> > > > अनेककोटिब्रह्माण्डजननी दिव्यविग्रहा || १७५ || This is a nama there
> > > > for which the commentary explains:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > अनेका अनन्ताः कोटयो ये ब्रह्माण्डास्तेषां जननी जनयित्री |
> > > >
> > > > यद्वा अनेककोटयो ब्रह्माण्डा येषां ते तथा |
> > > >
> > > > अभिमन्यमानत्वादिरूपः सम्बन्धः षष्ठ्यर्थः | तेषां विराडादीनां जननीम् |
> > > >
> > > > There are many Brahmanda-s, universes, each of which has a Virāt,
> > > > Hranyagarbha, Ishwara, etc. She is the Janani for these so many
> Virāt,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > > other male Gods too have this title : akkhilaanda kOti brahmAnda
> > > nAyaka....
> > >
> > > > If we say the Trimurtis are the Virat, etc. then She is the Janani
> of
> > > > the Trimurtis too. Then we can say that the Trimurtis in one
> Brahmanda
> > > > will have jurisdiction over that Brahmanda only.
> > >
> > > > And from this we can also say there are multiple paarvati-s,
> > Lakshmi-s,
> > > Saraswati-s, Ganesha-s, Subramanya etc. etc. ??
> > >
> > >
> > > Since Bhagavatpada
> > > > says in the Brihadaranyaka bhashya, Hiranyagarbha is both jiva and
> > > > Brahman from diff points of view, we can say the Trimurtis are
> > > > different jivas in diff brahmandas.
> > >
> > > >> mahAn Atma and tiny jeeva differentiated here to clarify the
> > > difference between avyAkruta and avidyA, I don’t think it is there is
> > > declare trimuthy-s are just another set of jeeva-s. If that is the
> case
> > > who is Ishwara here?? Is he another jeeva??
> > >
> > > > Trimurtis being considered jivas may not go down too well with some.
> > > Although Brahmaa ji is often given jiva status.
> > >
> > > > Let us not think about others, do you yourself agree that
> trimurthy-s
> > > are just another set of three jeeva-s and gained this position through
> > > their meritorious karma ....like indra padavi??
> > >
> > > The famous Bhagavatam verse is there where brahmas of different
> > brahmandas
> > > with differing numbers of faces, all come and pay their respects to Sri
> > > Krishna Bhagavan - its pic by ISKCON / gaudiya tradition is rather
> > > memorable I think.
> > >
> > > > so who is nArAyaNa here?? Before creation and after mahA pralaya??
> > >
> > >
> > > One other problem is if Lalita Devi (saguṇa Brahman) is anekakoTi
> > > brahmANda jananI what about her consort Lord Shiva? Is he the Lord of
> one
> > > universe or Lord of the multiverse?
> > >
> > > > as said above there must be multiple shiva-s, Ganesha-s, nandi-s
> etc.
> > > to maintain the shiva's family intact in each and every brahmAnda,
> > likewise
> > > family members of vishNu and chaturmukha brahma 😊
> > >
> > >
> > > There may be infinite regress unless we acknowledge the existence of
> > > certain forms of Ishvara including Shiva, Parvati , Vishnu etc as
> having
> > > Aishvaryam of the entire multiverse and these aspects of saguNam brahma
> > are
> > > not-limited-to-one-universe.
> > >
> > > > And if the above is true in literal sense, then we have to accept
> that
> > > sarvajnatva of brahma restricted to the particular brahmaanda where he
> is
> > > operating 😊
> > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > > bhaskar
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