[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Deep Sleep is Nondual Self with objections refuted, SSSS

[Bhaskar YR]

Humble praNAms Sri Acharya Jaishankar prabhuji
Hare Krishna

In addition to what Subbu ji has mentioned the following clearly point out that Sushupti is not what is claimed by SSSS and his followers.


Ø     It can be noted that Sri SSS did not say take sleeping pills, go to sushupti and get mOksha either 😊 Sri SSS does speak about existence of avidyA in sushupti as well that too based on bhAshya itself but NOT in the sense mUlavidyAvAdins.  The definition of beeja rUpa avidyA in sushupti, drastically differs from what mUlavidyAvAdins say and what bhAshyakAra offers!!

1. Bhashyakara clearly talks about a kArana-sharIra in Ishavasya Upanishad Bhasya for the 8th mantra

 शुद्धं निर्मलमविद्यामलरहितमिति कारणशरीरप्रतिषेधः ।
 śuddhaṃ nirmalamavidyāmalarahitamiti kāraṇaśarīrapratiṣedhaḥ ।
Pure, without any taint/dirt, without the taint of avidyA/ignorance, the kArana-sharIra (causal body) negation

2. In Brhadaranyaka 4.4.34 Bhashya it is clearly stated that sleep is only a drshtAnta (analogy) for moksha and the next prakarana is started to show moksha which is the daarshtaantika (that which is revealed through an analogy).

तत्र च बुद्धान्तात् स्वप्नान्तरम् अयमात्मा अनुप्रवेशितः ; तस्मात् सम्प्रसादस्थानं मोक्षदृष्टान्तभूतम् ; ततः प्राच्यव्य बुद्धान्ते संसारव्यवहारः प्रदर्शयितव्य इति तेन अस्य सम्बन्धः
tatra ca buddhāntāt svapnāntaram ayamātmā anupraveśitaḥ ; tasmāt samprasādasthānaṃ mokṣadṛṣṭāntabhūtam ; tataḥ prācyavya buddhānte saṃsāravyavahāraḥ pradarśayitavya iti tena asya sambandhaḥ

3. If sleep has no difference with moksha why even call it a state of experience and talk about atmasvarUpa as turIya. Instead mAndukya Upandishad should have named Atma as tritIya.


Ø     All these have been successfully dealt by Sri SSS in his works.  His works like gaudapAda hrudaya, bruhadAraNyaka upanyAsa maNjari, maNdUkya rahasya vivrutti, avasthAtraya Chandrika comprehensively address these very issues.  And how the sushupti avasthA has been viewed from different standpoints.

I have not seen proper answer for these from SSSS followers. They keep repeating quotations which shows the similarity of sleep with moksha as though it answers the above questions.


Ø     When you have Sri SSS works at your disposal why do you want to listen to his followers??  Give it a try to atleast understand his view point from his own works.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar