[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Atman and Witness - transcending

[Bhaskar YR]

Witness is there only when witnessing happening. Atman being beyond time, space and objects is Self luminous, which illumines when they are present but remains Self-illuminating when there is only Itself.

praNAms
Hare Krishna

Yes, witness is witness whether witnessing is happening or not.  He was / is / will always be ‘unattached witness’ not unattached to witness (sAkshi).  Like whether brahman is doing the creation, sustenation etc. or not, the sarvajnatva, sarvashaktitva etc. will always be there in its svarUpa.  If this sAkshi is kevala avidyAkruta shruti would have not said it is ‘kUtastha nityaH’.  And this kUtastha nitya sAkshi and his vision both are nitya there is no lOpa for this bruhadAraNyaka clarifies this.  And in this sAkshi pramAtrutva is kevala adhyastha.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

BHASKAR YR

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Thus, from prompting the recollection of being the witness of thoughts, he facilitated the strengthening of the realisation that even while being the witness, transcending that, unattached witness is the innermost Ātman, that is Self-luminous, of the very nature of incessant Bliss and non-different from the Supreme Brahman.

Witness is there only when witnessing happening. Atman being beyond time, space and objects is Self luminous, which illumines when they are present but remains Self-illuminating when there is only Itself.

Aurobind

On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, 19:51 aham brahmaasmi, <ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com<mailto:ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Respected Vidwans,

Please may I ask what is meant by the text in bold below? So, is Atman the unattached witness OR does it transcend the unattached witness? I thought it was the former. What does 'transcending the unattached witness' mean here?

108  Facets of the Inimitable Guru - page 19

  “In our class at the usual hour in the evening of 3rd January 1976, Sri Subbaramaiya commenced by asking us about our experiences stemming from the contemplation on the mahāvākya, ‘prajñānaṁ brahma’ (Consciousness is Brahman). He subtly led us by progressively and minutely distilling our contemplation. Thus, from prompting the recollection of being the witness of thoughts, he facilitated the strengthening of the realisation that even while being the witness, transcending that unattached witness is the innermost Ātman that is Self-luminous, of the very nature of incessant Bliss and non-different from the Supreme Brahman."

thank you in advance for your replies,
hari: Om !
sakshi
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