[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Atman and Witness - transcending

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Fri Mar 21 13:36:14 EDT 2025


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 7:25 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Subbu ji
>
> I would like to add that in the 13 chapter of the Geeta Bhagwan says that
>> the witness of the body is kshetratrajna.
>>
>
> I think when Bhagvan says this, He means jIva and not witness. So, He has
> kartA, bhOkta, jIva as the meaning of kshetrajna-1.
>

In the Bhashya to that first shloka, Shankara specifies:

एतत् शरीरं क्षेत्रं यः* वेत्ति विजानाति, आपादतलमस्तकं ज्ञानेन विषयीकरोति*,
स्वाभाविकेन औपदेशिकेन वा वेदनेन विषयीकरोति विभागशः, तं वेदितारं प्राहुः
कथयन्ति क्षेत्रज्ञः इति |

The one who objectifies the body-mind-complex is Kshetrajna.

Anandagiri explains: स्वाभाविकं ‘मनुष्योऽहम् ‘ इति ज्ञानम् ,  औपदेशिकम्
‘देहो नाऽत्मा दृष्यत्वात् ‘इत्यादिविभागशः - स्वतोऽतिरिक्तत्वेन इत्यर्थः ।

regards
subbu

>
> Immediately He says that that witness in every body is Me that is bramhan.
>>
>
> So, it is like tat tvam asi. Tat is kshetrajna-2 (Ishwara/sAkshI) and
> kshetrajna-1 is jIva.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>
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