[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Upadesha SAhasrI 18.43

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms
Hare Krishna

avidyA, which is AtmA-AbhAsa-Ashraya, is not determined through logic.


  *   What is AtmA AbhAsa here?? Is it jeeva??  You said avidyA per se cannot be determined by logic.  What exactly is this avidyA per se??  apart from pramANita bhAvarUpa ( or bhAvAbhAva vilakshaNa which you are insisting whenever it is said bhAvarUpa), anirvachaneeyatvaM, jnAna nivartakatvaM??


It is sAkshi-bhAsya.


  *   Again is this sAkshi which is avidyA upahita Chaitanya =jeeva for which avidyA is bhAsya??

However, the anAdi-tva, anirvachanIya-tva, bhAvarUpa-tva, jnAna-nivartya-tva etc, which are the attributes of avidyA, are proved by pramANa.


  *   What is avidyA svarUpa here apart from above visheshaNa-s??

They are not sAkshi-bhAsya.


  *   Very interesting, avidyA per se is sAkshi-bhAsya but avidyA visheshaNa-s are NOT sAkshi bhAsya but can be proved as existent through pramANa!!??

So, here also, ajnAna per se is sAkshi-bhAsya, but bhAvarUpa-anirvachanIya-tva-vishishTa-ajnAna which is nothing but visheshaNatA-avachchhedaka-prakAraka-jnAna is pramANa-janya.  BTW who is using these pramANa-s to prove the existence of attributes of avidyA ??  Is it Atma or Atma abhAsa??


  *   I am losing track of your / vyAkhyAnakAra-s observation, please explain me in simple layman terms.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar