[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Is Ramanuja a Demon? Is his Sribhashya a ku-bhashya?

[Krishna Kashyap]

thanks Subbu Ji.
I will go through in detail.

*Best Regards,*

*Krishna Kashyap*




On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 1:43 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 18 Sept, 2025, 5:46 pm Krishna Kashyap, <kkashyap2011 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> namaste Subbu Ji,
>>
>> in which work Raghavendra swami says this:
>> Raghavendra Swamy has praised Madhvacharya as the one whose feet dust
>> will liberate Shiva, etc. And also the Shankara nindaa part.?
>>
>> Please give a citation.
>>
>
> Dear Krishna ji,
>
> In the invocatory verse composed by Raghavendra (Swamy) Tirtha to his
> prakāśikā to the Tatparyachandrika of Vyasatirtha, the former says, in the
> second verse cited below: Let foot-dust of Purnaprajna (Madhwacharya) that
> causes the liberation (nirvāṇagati) of Śarva (Shiva) etc. gods (gīrvāṇa)
> protect us always.
>
>
> https://archive.org/details/tatparya-chandrika-of-vyasa-tirtha-dvaita-vedanta-studies-and-research-foundation/page/2/mode/2up
>
>
> समस्तगुणसंपूर्ण सर्वदोषविवर्जितम् । शानिप्रियतमं वन्दे मुक्तिदं कमलापतिम्
> ॥ १॥
> *शर्वादिसर्वगीर्वाणनिर्वाणगतिहेतवः । पूर्णप्रज्ञपदाम्भोजपासवः पान्तु नः
> सदा ॥ २ ॥*
>
> The following was shared with me by a friend: Regarding the Shankara nindā
> by Raghavendra Tirtha:  The gist of the Kannada write-up is:
>
> In this link
> https://srimadhvyasa.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/sanskrit-prameyanavamalika-01062013.pdf
> is a book *Goodha Bhaava Prakaashika Vyakhya Authored by Sri Raghavendra
> Theertha, a gloss on Prameya Nava Malika (Anu Madhwa Vijaya ) of Sri
> Narayana Pandithacharya.  (Raghavendra Tirtha was known as Mahabhāshya
> Venkta Bhatta in his pre-monastic life, when he wrote the commentary. There
> he has denigrated Shankara (and by extension, the other pre-Madhwa Sutra
> bhashya authors). One can see that in the linked pdf provided above.  *
>
> ಮಂತ್ರಾಲಯದ ರಾಘವೇಂದ್ರ ಸ್ವಾಮಿಗಳು ಶಂಕರರ ನಿಂದೆಯನ್ನು ಎಲ್ಲಿಯೂ ಮಾಡಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು
> ಹೇಳುವವರು ಈ ಕೆಳಗಿನ ಕಿರುಲೇಖನವನ್ನು ನೋಡಬಹುದು.
>
> ನಾರಾಯಣ ಪಂಡಿತನ ಅಣುಮಧ್ವವಿಜಯ ಅಥವಾ ಪ್ರಮೇಯನವಮಾಲಿಕಾ ಎಂಬ ಕಾವ್ಯದ ಮೇಲೆ ಮಹಾಭಾಷ್ಯ
> ವೆಂಕಟಭಟ್ಟ (ನಂತರ ಇವರೇ ಮಂತ್ರಾಲಯದ ರಾಘವೇಂದ್ರ ಸ್ವಾಮಿಗಳಾದರು) ಬರೆದ ಗೂಢಭಾವಪ್ರಕಾಶಿಕಾ
> ಎಂಬ ವ್ಯಾಖ್ಯಾನವಿದೆ. ಅದರಲ್ಲಿ ಬಂದಿರುವ ಶಂಕರನಿಂದಾ ಭಾಗಗಳು-
>
> ಎರಡನೇ ಶ್ಲೋಕದಲ್ಲಿ क्रोधतन्त्रा भूत्वा भूमौ कुशास्त्रं व्याधिषत
> मणिमत्पूर्वकाः ಎಂದು ನಾರಾಯಣ ಪಂಡಿತ ಹೇಳಿದೆಡೆ, ವೆಂಕಟಭಟ್ಟರು ಹೀಗೆ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಾರೆ -
> "*मणिमदाख्यदैत्यपूर्वकाः क्रोधतन्त्राः कोपपरवशाः सन्तः भूमौ
> संकरादिनामत्वेनोत्पद्य कुशास्त्रं दुःशास्त्रं व्यधिषताकार्षुः*". ಇಲ್ಲಿ
> ಶಂಕರರನ್ನೇ ಅವರು ಹೇಳಿರುವುದು ಸುಸ್ಪಷ್ಟ. ಮುಂದಿನ ಶ್ಲೋಕದ ವ್ಯಾಖ್ಯಾನದಲ್ಲಿ ಸಹ
> "*संकरकृतदुःशास्त्रेण*" ಎಂದು ದೂಷಣೆ ಮುಂದುವರೆಯುತ್ತದೆ.
>
> ಒಂಭತ್ತನೇ ಶ್ಲೋಕದಲ್ಲಿ ನಾರಾಯಣ ಪಂಡಿತ दुष्टभाष्यापनोदी ಎಂದರೆ ವೆಂಕಟಭಟ್ಟ
> "*दुष्टस्य संस्करस्य भाष्यं दुष्टं च तद्भाष्यं च इति वा*" ಎಂದು ಶಂಕರರನ್ನು
> ಮತ್ತು ಅವರ ಭಾಷ್ಯವನ್ನು ದುಷ್ಟ ಎಂದು ಕರೆದಿರುವುದು ಕಂಡುಬರುತ್ತದೆ. ಹೀಗೆ
> ಸ್ವಮತಾಭಿನಿವೇಶದಿಂದ ರಾಯರೂ ಸಹ ಅನ್ಯಮತಾಚಾರ್ಯರನ್ನು ನಿಂದೆ ಮಾಡಿರುವುದು ಖೇದಕರ. ಇರಲಿ,
> ರಾಯರ ಭಕ್ತರಾದರೂ ಇದನ್ನು ಮುಂದುವರೆಸದಿರಲಿ.
>
> ಇತಿ ಶಂ.
>
>
> warm regards
> subbu
>
>
>> *Best Regards,*
>>
>> *Krishna Kashyap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 3:37 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 2:41 PM Krishna Kashyap via Advaita-l <
>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting article.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard that among Kannadigas (since I am a Bangalorean), smartas
>>>> marrying Madhvas is a common practice. Most people dont even question
>>>> this
>>>> practice. Should I understand that these Madhvas who have married
>>>> Smarthas
>>>> have never read, understood, or agreed with these scriptures by Madhva
>>>> scholars?
>>>>
>>>
>>> In many cases such Madhva - Smarta marriages happen in the non-scholarly
>>> Madhva circles.  Orthodox Madhwas/scholars would not recommend/support such
>>> a mix.  There is also this practice in some cases: A Madhva family would
>>> take a Smarta girl as their daughter in law and she will (have to) conform
>>> to their practices. But they would not give their daughters to the Smarta
>>> family.
>>>
>>> Most Smarthas also do not know of the Shankaracharya/Advaiti ninda in
>>> the Madhva books. There is also the Raghavendra Swamy following among a
>>> very large Smarta community. Again, they do not know of the antithesis:
>>> Raghavendra Swamy has praised Madhvacharya as the one whose feet dust will
>>> liberate Shiva, etc. And also the Shankara nindaa part.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> subbu
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Best Regards,*
>>>>
>>>> *Krishna Kashyap*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 12:06 PM V Subrahmanian <
>>>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Here is an article on the above topic:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> https://adbhutam.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/demonization-of-ramanujacharya-in-madhwa-books.pdf
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > regards
>>>> > subbu
>>>> >
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