[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Shankara compares and contrasts Prātibhāsika, Vyāhārika and Pāramārthika

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Sat Jan 31 18:52:28 EST 2026


Indeed. Which is why I have mostly stopped participating in forums such as
these for some time now. At one stage I found them useful for manana, but
since then, the repetitiveness of the arguments started to get in the way
of nididhyAsana.

Thanks everyone - hopefully will join at a later date.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Sat, 31 Jan 2026, 23:57 Raja Krishnamurti, <rajakrishnamurti at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> It is a waste of time trying to convince someone at age 60 or 70. Vedanta,
> whether Advaitha or whatever. It. That is why it is said Shravanam, mananam
> and niddidyasam. While it is nice to discuss, now is the time to buy the
> book or listen to the knowledge of great Rishi’s and dwell on it and the
> realization comes automatically. Only needed as per my Guru is always faith
> always.Vedanta has to be practiced not just talked about. If any of you
> have something related to Vedanta, just put the link so we can do mananam
> and shravanam and niddhayasam. No one need to be convincing as everyone in
> this group is mature to do the right thing, I believe. With Om and Prem,
> Raja Krishnamurti
>
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> On Saturday, January 31, 2026, 7:45 AM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> Namaste Michael,
>
> Thanks, but I am not interested in continuing a discussion where a person
> makes erroneous assumptions about my position and then concludes that what
> follows from such a position is wrong.
>
> Illogical and anirmoksha you say? So be it.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026, 23:00 Michael Chandra Cohen, <
> michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Venkataraghavan sir,
> > SSS's only interest is presenting PTB as intended. Further, purvapaksa
> > based on tarka and sabda is the traditional manana to arrive at that
> > intention. There is no one to converted here - we all have the same
> > interest. However, endowing vyvarhara with a relative reality is contrary
> > to PTB, illogical and an anirmoksa position, as SSS points out.🙏
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 9:18 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> > sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste Michael ji.
> >>
> >> It is not true that I have not studied PSA - I have not studied like you
> >>> have no doubt but that is hardly the point.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The tell me, how do you agree with Dr Hegde that PSA postulate the
> >> ontological reality for world without any standpoint. I have given
> citation
> >> of PanchadashI and Tejobindu commentary which clearly postulate that
> >> avidyA/world are mithyA from avidyA-drishTi, and tuchchhA from
> >> Brahma-drishTi. There are hundreds other supporting citations. I don't
> want
> >> to flood the mail. It is actually common sense. Snake is illusory from
> the
> >> frame of reference of non-rope. Snake is tuchchha from
> >> rope-frame-of-reference.
> >>
> >> How can you not know this basic postulate of PSA and venture to refute
> >> them by relying on half-baked articles of Dr Hegde and incorrect
> >> understanding of SSSS ji.
> >>
> >> Just appreciate what you are doing. In the name of some
> >> shuddha-ShAnkara-prakriyA, you are contradicting common sense as well as
> >> omniscient SAyaNAchArya, the commentator of VedAs. For what purpose? For
> >> what use?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
> >>
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