[Chaturamnaya] [Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sri Kartik Ji,

Reg  << I thought the answer was there above: The SELF or the ATMAN rests
in the Turiya.>>,

Ok. By “SELF or the ATMAN “, reference is to the Individual Self. And by “THE
INFINITE SELF “ reference is to Turiya/Brahman. I hope I have got it
correct this time.

But then we have these two observations

<< In the waking state, the dream state has already been renounced!
Similarly, in the deep sleep state, both the waking and dream states have
been renounced.
The "problem", if you will, is that the same state that was once renounced
is being
accepted again (or re-entered into), soon thereafter! >>

<< Thus in the Turiya state, ONLY THE INFINITE SELF EXISTS - there is
literally nothing else.
There is no "entering in and out of" any of the Three States. In fact, the
Three States
cease to exist when one realizes the Turiya state.>>,

Does it mean that after “one realizes the Turiya state “, there is no
"entering in and out of" any of the Three States for him ? Permanently ? Is
he not aware of his body or the world at all ?

Regards

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 7:40 AM S Jayanarayanan via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> (Combining responses)
>
> H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Sri Kartik Ji,
> >
> > My query really did not stress on whether Turiya is the Fourth state or
> not. It related to who “ rests in the
> > Fourth state called Turiya “ as stated in your first post. This doubt is
> now reinforced by the following
> > observation in your response
> >
> > << Thus in the Turiya state, ONLY THE INFINITE SELF EXISTS - there is
> literally nothing else.
> > There is no "entering in and out of" any of the Three States. In fact,
> the Three States
> > cease to exist when one realizes the Turiya state >>.
> >
> > I did not find the answer in your response.
> >
>
> I thought the answer was there above: The SELF or the ATMAN rests in the
> Turiya.
>
> >
> > Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,
> >
> > Reg  << Who is enquirer and who realizes the tureeyam? if that is the
> question >>,
> >
> > No. Slightly different. My question is,  postRealization, who “rests in
> the Fourth State Turiyam “.
> >
>
> I believe Sri Sadananda also replied with the same answer that it is the
> SELF or the ATMAN?
>
> > Anytime you feel I am unnecessarily harping on nonissues, please feel
> free to say so and terminate the
> > discussion. No hard feelings. I am only trying to firmup my
> understanding of the Sidhanta. If incidentally it
> > helps anyone else it is a bonus.
> >
> >
>
> Not at all! I believe we are all students of the Realized Masters of the
> past and present.
>
> > Regards
> >
>
> Regards,
> Kartik
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