[Chaturamnaya] [Advaita-l] The Foundations of Adhyāsa - 8 (The Three States)

[Ravi Kiran]

Thank you Subbuji for pointing to the precise and relevant  bhAshya texts
and summary,

This helps much!

Warm regards,

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:26 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:52 AM Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Namaste,
>>
>> A small clarification:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 9:42 AM H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Namaste Kartik Ji,
>> >
>> > Reg  << So it appears that although a Jnani may have so-called "waking"
>> or
>> > "dream" states, there is a
>> > big difference in his case that the UNDERLYING Turiya state is never
>> > "forgotten". In other
>> > words, the Jnani does not have the *Adhyasa* of confusing the "waking"
>> or
>> > "dream" to be real! >>,
>> >
>>
>> does a Jnani know the dream to be unreal while in dream ? ( in other
>> words,
>> the Turiya Jnana attained in waking continues to be available during
>> dream state also ? )
>>
>
> Brihadaranyaka mantra: 4.3.20:
>
> ता वा अस्यैता हिता नाम नाड्यो यथा केशः सहस्रधा भिन्नस्तावताणिम्ना
> तिष्ठन्ति शुक्लस्य नीलस्य पिङ्गलस्य हरितस्य लोहितस्य पूर्णा अथ यत्रैनं
> घ्नन्तीव जिनन्तीव हस्तीव विच्छाययति गर्तमिवपतति यदेव जाग्रद्भयं पश्यति
> तदत्राविद्यया मन्यतेऽथ यत्र देव इव राजेवाहमेवेदं सर्वोऽस्मीति मन्यते
> सोऽस्य परमो लोकः ॥ २० ॥
>
> //Now, when  he feels as if he were being killed or overpowered, or
> being  chased by an elephant, or falling into a pit, in short, when he
> fancies at that time, thorough ignorance, whatever frightful  thing he has
> expericned in the waking state, that is the dream  state. So also, when he
> thinks he is a god, as it were, or a king,  as it were, or thinks: "This
> universe is myself and I am all,: that  is his highest state.  //
>
> Shankara's bhashya, the relevant portion:
>
> एवम् अत्यन्तप्रक्षीयमाणा अविद्या उद्भूता च विद्या सर्वात्मविषया यदा, तदा
> स्वप्नेऽपि तद्भावभावितः — अहमेवेदं सर्वोऽस्मीति मन्यते ; स यः
> सर्वात्मभावः, सोऽस्य आत्मनः परमो लोकः परम आत्मभावः स्वाभाविकः । Br.Up.4.3.20
>
>
> [Then when ignorance decreases and knowledge'
> increases, (the result is as follows). The text describes
> the content and nature of the knowledge: And when
> he himself becomes a god, as it were.· When, in the
> waking state, meditation regarding the gods prevails.
> he considers himself a god, as it were, on account of
> the impressions generated by it. The same thing is
> being said of the dream state too: He becomes 'a god,
> as it were.' Or a king, as it were : Having been
> installed as the ruler of a state (in the waking state).
> he thinks in his dreams also that he is a king, for he
> is imbued with the impressions of his kingly state.
> *Similarly, when (in the waking state) his ignorance is*
> *extremely attenuated, and the knowledge that he*
> *comprises all arises, he thinks under the influence of*
> *these impressions in the dream state also, 'This*
> *(universe) is myself, who am all.' That, this identity*
> *with all, is his highest state, the A.tman's own natural,*
> *supreme state.]*
>
> Since the realization 'I am all', sarvoham' arises ONLY by the
> falsification of the objective world, mithyatva nishchaya', the above
> Mantra and Bhashya is the proof of the Jnani relizing even in dream that
> the world is mithya. We have to remember that falsification of world does
> not mean non-perception of the world. See the Panchadashi verses I posted
> in this thread.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
>>
>> or it is to be understood that..
>>
>> Jnani knows that dream is unreal and waking is unreal too (as all avasthas
>> are due to adhyaasa), during waking only?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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